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To: 1L
I understand the scheduling proces, Steele picked North Texas (once), Southern Illinois and Samford. We could have gone to Alabama last year (for a guaranteed 500m) instead of hosting SIU (9/11 make up game) at a significant loss, but he thought that was our 6th win, which would qualify us for a bowl. Oops, 3 and 9 don't git it coach. I might want him out of Baylor, but I won't accuse him unfairly.

There's no reason that Baylor can't pay top dollar for a coach. A couple of bowl games will pay it all back.

USC is 15,000 students, Baylor is 12,000 - not decidedly different. And none of the other teams mentioned play in the Big XII but they do play tougher non conference schedules.

OSU is out of the bottom in football. They beat OU last year and kept them from repeating as national champs.

Right now Baylor is competitive with no one in the league. That needs to change, it would be better for everyone in the Big XII.

I hope we've cleaned up our game when the Ag's come to FCS on Oct 12. I doubt that we can beat Kansas this year. Steele has never beaten a first year coach and Mangino is not the average first year coach.

If he beats A&M and UT this year, he can stay!

29 posted on 09/04/2002 6:37:59 PM PDT by Mike K
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To: Mike K
We could have gone to Alabama last year (for a guaranteed 500m) instead of hosting SIU (9/11 make up game) at a significant loss, but he thought that was our 6th win, which would qualify us for a bowl.

Honestly, this is 6 of 1, and a half dozen of another. The only problem with doing things like going to Alabama, is that Baylor aligns itself with the Louisiana-Lafeyettes of the world -- i.e. willing to travel for a game check. I don't think that's the way to build a program, but I'm willing to listen to those who think it is.

There's no reason that Baylor can't pay top dollar for a coach. A couple of bowl games will pay it all back.

I'm not the one suggesting they SHOULDN'T. I'm the one suggesting they WON'T. I don't think this is in their future.

USC is 15,000 students, Baylor is 12,000 - not decidedly different.

Hmmm. Not according to USC's web site: "Today, USC is located at the heart of one of the biggest metropolises in the world and is home to over 28,800 students and 3,800 faculty." In addition, USC has a large alumni base, including Hollywood, that paves the way for higher levels of funding. Additionally, as much as I like Baylor, comparing it to USC for football reasons is almost (sorry, but) laughable. There have been few years when USC wasn't competitive in football, and only recently have they fallen out of year to year competition for the national championship. USC recruits nationally, they once owned California (like t.u. did Texas), and still get most of the recruits they really want.

And none of the other teams mentioned play in the Big XII but they do play tougher non conference schedules.

BC plays UConn, Stanford, and Central Michigan. Purdue plays Notre Dame, Western Michigan, Illinois State, and Wake Forest. Baylor plays Cal, Samford, New Mexico, and Tulsa. While Baylor's schedule this year isn't quite as tough as the teams you mentioned, and certainly nothing like Miami's, except for Notre Dame there isn't a great deal of difference between the opponents mentioned. So essentially I don't buy the argument that the schedules are really much tougher at all.

OSU is out of the bottom in football. They beat OU last year and kept them from repeating as national champs.

Since they lost to La. Tech, a decently, but not great team, I'll reserve judgment. OSU and Baylor will fight for the 5th and 6th spots in the B12 south.

Right now Baylor is competitive with no one in the league.

While the defeat to Cal was very discouraging, no team in the Big 12 really shined in their opener. Iowa State came close, and they lost! If the team has truly quit on Steele, then the administration will have no choice. But let's wait and see what happens. I think Baylor CAN win their next four games, then comes the meat of the B12 schedule, and they play OSU the last game. That's bad luck, since if OSU was the week they play A&M, they might have a better chance.

If he beats A&M and UT this year, he can stay!

Well, if that's the measure, he might as well find a realtor.

30 posted on 09/05/2002 7:56:54 AM PDT by 1L
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