EARTH CHANGES APPROACHING

APIntercessors@yahoogroups.com ^ | 19 AUG 2002 and earlier | Timothy Snodgrass

[Quix]

  DEAR ONES,    

IN VIEW OF THE FIGI QUAKES
HOURS AGO
WHERE MY UNCLE AND WIFE
CURRENTLY ARE
PRAYERS PLEASE FOR THEM
DON & MARTHA
7.5 AND 7.7 OFF THE COAST OF FIJI

    AND IN VIEW OF THIS SITE'S PREDICTING IT AND THAT IT WOULD SIGNAL SOME OTHER SERIOUS EVENTS, PLEASE PRAYERFULLY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FOUND AT THIS SITE:   

http://www.TimothySnodgrass.com/pages/699844/index.htm?gen_time=1029774872442   

IF THE REF ABOVE DOESN'T POST RIGHT. SORRY, I am on the road and don't have my html cheat sheet. Anyone who can fix it please do. I don't remember it quite right evidently about how.

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EARTH CHANGES APPROACHING

[ADDED PARAGRAPHING BY Q--OTHERWISE, NO CHANGES]

    Note: We have received numerous requests for copies of Timothy's latest book, "Earth Changes Approaching". Although this book has not yet been printed, note that as soon as it is printed we plan on sending a free copy to all those who have given to this ministry in 2002. We are currently waiting for the materialization of printing-costs ($2,000 needed for first batch of books).   

  EXCERPT FROM BOOK   

Historically, the largest earthquake to ever be recorded (since the invention of the seismograph in the 1850's) was a 9.5 earthquake in Chile, which took place on May 22, 1960. This South American quake was so powerful that it sent tsunami rippling across the entire Pacific. Over 2,000 people died in the earthquake and tsunami which followed. Fifteen hours after the quake rocked Chile, the tidal wave hit Hilo, Hawaii (61 deaths) ~ 7 hours later, the tsunami reached Japan (over 200 deaths). There were also casualties reported in the Philippines, New Zealand, Samoa, Indonesia, and across the entire Pacific Rim.   

The tidal waves triggered by the Chilean earthquake were relatively small, ranging from 10 to 60 feet high, yet had a devastating impact on the half the globe. One of the greatest threats from tsunami comes not from earthquakes themselves, but from underwater landslides which are triggered by the quakes. For example, the largest tsunami ever recorded took place on July 9, 1958 in Lituya Bay, Alaska. The tsunami was recorded as being 1,720 feet high (530 meters), yet the earthquake which triggered it was only 8.3 on the Richter Scale.    

    Although this Alaskan tidal wave was enormous, the underwater area involved in the landslide was relatively small, and the tsunami only affected Lituya Bay, which in 1958 was only inhabited by moose, bears, and a few fisherman and hunters. Thus, the loss of life was minimal. But this event was a turning point for the way scientists viewed the threat from undersea landslides.    

  After 1958, a study of underwater chasms and valleys became a priority of seismologist, so that vulnerable areas could be mapped and identified. One of the greatest landslide threats discovered lies off the coast of Oregon, near the Cascadia Subduction Zone. This undersea chasm is so expansive that it makes the Grand Canyon look like a gopher hole. A major earthquake occurs along the Cascadia Subduction Zone approximately every 300 years, and the area is now overdue for a major event (the last one occurred exactly 302 years ago in 1700 AD, which triggered tsunami that wiped out several Indian tribes in Oregon).   

    Alaska has had its share of major earthquakes. Six years after the 8.3 Lituya Bay earthquake, another mammoth earthquake took place in Alaska on March 27, 1964. The Prince William Sound Earthquake measured 9.2 on the Ricther Scale, and is the 2nd largest earthquake ever recorded. The tsunami from this quake, although small compared to Lituya Bay, killed over 110 people from Alaska to Crescent City, California.   

    Only four earthquakes have been recorded in history as exceeding 9.0 on the Ricther Scale ~ 2 of these quakes were located in Alaska. On March 9, 1957, the third largest earthquake recorded in history took place in the Andreanof Islands, Alaska. This 9.1 earthquake was a turning point in the study of volcanoes, proving that major earthquakes can indeed awaken volcanoes that have been sleeping for generations.    

    At exactly 2:22 in the afternoon, as the 9.1 earthquake sent tidal waves crashing across the Andreanof Islands, Mount Vsevidof violently erupted on Umnak Island (a volcano had been dormant for over 200 years). The connection between major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions would be further established 3 years later in 1960, when a chain of dormant volcanoes violently erupted in Chile during the unprecedented 9.5 earthquake.   

  Although all of the above earthquakes were large, none can compare to the New Madrid, Missouri quakes, which occurred during the winter of 1811 - 1812. This series of quakes lasted for 5 months, and took place long before the seismograph was invented. If you compare this series of quakes to the 9.5 Chilean quake (which lasted for 3 weeks), the New Madrid earthquake would have to have been comparatively much larger (lasting 5 months).   

  The magnitude of the New Madrid earthquakes had to be truly enormous. In 1964, the Prince Williams Sound earthquake (9.2) could only be felt as far away as Seattle, Washington. But 18 of the New Madrid earthquakes rang church bells as far away as Boston, Massachusettes, and could be felt across the entire eastern half of the United States.    

   Over 150,000 acres of forest were destroyed, new lakes were formed, and tsunami crashed along the shores of the Mississippi River, leaving a graveyard of destroyed boats and debris. Witnesses reported that the entire river appeared to be flowing backwards during 5 of the largest quakes. Although there were roughly 2,000 quakes during a 5-month period, the five BIG quakes occurred between December 16, 1811, and February 7, 1812. The first 2 of the 5 big quakes were epicentered in Arkansas, both occurring on the same day (December 16th).    

   The third earthquake was epincentered in New Madrid, Missouri (January 23, 1812). The fourth and fifth quakes occurred in New Madrid on February 7, and were the largest of the series. It was these two quakes that destroyed the city of New Madrid, and toppled houses as far away as St. Louis. (Note: Although some sources report that there were three large quakes, technically there were 5 mega-quakes [2 on 12/16/11, 1 on 1/23/12, and another 2 on 2/7/12].    

   The USGS, although conservatively estimating the New Madrid quakes to be in the 8-point range, have recently published a report indicating that 5 of the earthquakes had to be at least 2 to 3 times large than the Prince Edward Sound earthquake, which measured 9.2 on the Richter Scale.   

   On November 20, 2001, I was given a detailed prophetic vision of another series of quakes which will soon shake the United States Midwest. The coming quakes will exceed the magnitudes of the previous New Madrid quakes of 1811 - 1812, and will result in significant earth changes along several areas of the Central United States.    

   In Arkansas and Missouri, the earth changes that began 191 years ago during the New Madrid quakes will reach maturation. Along the New Madrid fault line and several other fault lines which wind there way up to the Great Lakes, there will be a sudden drop of elevation.    

   The size of the Great Lakes will decrease, as water drains into the newly formed rift and cascades southward into the Gulf of Mexico. Within less than a day, a new gulf will appear in the United States. North America will be literally divided in half from east to west. The majority of changes will take place within 24 hours, but aftershocks from the quake will continue to rattle the region for 7 months.    

   The force of the water cascading from north to south during the birthing of the initial rift will lay the foundations for diverse topography and landscapes along the newly birthed shoreline.    Inland Tsunami And Displacements Of Rivers And Lakes   

   Prior to 1811, tsunami were believed to be only an ocean phenomen. But on December 16, 1811, a new precedent was set for tidal waves. When an earthquake approaches or exceeds 9.0 on the Richter Scale, earth changes are imminent. These changes can be anywhere from minor to catastrophic, depending upon the geology and terrain of the earth.    

    If a body of water happens to be near the epicenter, one of two things can happen: 1) The quake will generate tsunami, or 2) The body of water will be displaced, and shift to another location. During the New Madrid quakes of 1811 - 1812, fortunately the course of the entire Mississippii river did not change, but tsunami along the river destroyed many boats docked along the shore, and overwhelmed many smaller vessels that were further out in the river. As fissures opened and closed below the surface, the agitated water gave the illusion that the river was flowing backwards.   

    During major earthquakes, the elevation of land rises and falls. The greatest earth changes occur not when the land is thrown upwards, but when it collapses. In Alaska, during the Prince Edward Sound earthquake, many fertile valleys and farmlands became transformed into water-filled marshes overnight, as underground water reserves filled large portions of land that collapsed. In New Madrid, the shaking was so intense that land waves could be seen rippling across the face of the earth. The elevation of the earth rose and fell over an area of 78,000 - 129,000 square kilometers, extending from Cairo, Illinois, to Memphis, Tennessee, and from Crowleys Ridge, Arkansas, to Chickasaw Bluffs, Tennessee. Many new lakes were formed, including Lake St. Francis in eastern Arkansas, which is 64 kilometers long by 1 kilometer wide.   

    The future map of the Gulf of the North America, which will extend from the Great Lakes in the north, to the Gulf of Mexico in the south, is not without precedent in earth history. The Gulf of California, which runs along the San Andreas Fault, was once connected to Mexico. But at one point the region violently collapsed into an eternal blue abyss, known today by Mexico as the Sea of Cortez.    

    The northern end of the Gulf of California is very shallow (no place greater than 600 feet deep), then gradually merges into the marshlands of the delta (similar to the marshes created overnight by the Alaskan earthquake of 1964).    

    The future Gulf of North America will have at least 3 to 4 times the mass of the Gulf of California. The tsunami triggered from the drainage of the Great Lakes will move southward at a catastrophic rate, engulfing entire cities in its path as it winds its way south into the crystal blue waters of the Gulf of Mexico.    

    To the northeast of the Great Lakes in Canada, newly formed channels will connect the Gulf to the Atlantic Ocean. Although this inland tsunami will indeed be large, it will be small compared to the tidal waves generated by the earth changes throughout the Pacific Ring of Fire.   

    Copyright Timothy Snodgrass 2002, All Rights Reserved. Reproduction and distribution is strictly prohibited without prior permission. For a list of sources and documentation on above data, refer to Timothy's upcoming book Earth Changes Approaching.   

  

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    I WOULD ADD, PROPHETIC TYPES EVEN OF SHAMMAN, NEW AGE ETC. TYPES HAVE "SEEN" SIMILAR EARTH CHANGES OCCRING IN OUR TIME FRAME ALONG THE CENTRAL U.S. It almost seems as though God has tried every channel to warn us.    

[Nataku X]

Quix, sorry, but I think the Bible is pretty clear that if a prophet's inaccurate, then that prophet isn't a true prophet. Also, I noticed that SaberTooth's dream and SaberTooth's images show that in the former scenario, the midwest is devestated, and in the latter scenario, the midwest is not touched.

That kind of lax treatment of prophecies lead to Mormonism, JJehovah's Witnesses, etc. Professing to divinely predict future events is a BIG thing, and I'd at least expect a prophet to be completely accurate before taking his word to be God's divine inspiration.

Also, note that Earthquake trends are NOT changing and actually are much lower than the 40s, despite popular radio evangelist urban legends.

Feel free to contradict me.

[Nataku X]

Sorry, that should've said SaberTooth's dream and 2sheep's images. Also, in reference to 2sheep's images, I don't really remember how subduction can occur in the Atlantic (thus sinking the East Coast) from geology class. Perhaps the East Coast can be pushed up into dramatic Himalayas overnight, but... *shrug*

Just something to keep in mind.

[2sheep]

Ask the Lord.......or wait and see!  One thing for sure:  If America breaks up down the middle and goes under water, we'll know Tim Snodgrass was a true prophet, won't we?

[2sheep]

Ask the Lord.......or wait and see!  One thing for sure:  If America breaks up down the middle and goes under water, we'll know Tim Snodgrass was a true prophet, won't we?

[djf]

If you ever find out about Hapgood or Hugh Auchincloss Brown we might have something to talk about.

[Jeremiah Jr]

Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.


Rosh HaShanah: Names, Themes, and Idioms

1. Teshuvah (repentance)
2. Rosh HaShanah (Head of the Year, Birthday of the World)
3. Yom Teruah (the Day of the Awakening Blast [Feast of Trumpets)
4. Yom HaDin (the Day of Judgment)
5. HaMelech (the Coronation of the Messiah)
6. Yom HaZikkaron (the Day of Remembrance or memorial)
7. The time of Jacob's (Ya'akov) trouble (the birthpangs of the Messiah, Chevlai shel Mashiach)
8. The opening of the gates
9. Kiddushin/Nesu'in (the wedding ceremony)
10. The resurrection of the dead (rapture, natza1)
11. The last trump (shofar)
12. Yom Hakeseh (the hidden day)

...and great Babylon came in remembrance before God... Yom HaDin, the Day of Judgment

[DreamWeaver]

Thanks for the heads up. Fascinating thread. I know from experience in my own family that yes, children can and do prophecy, many times through dreams.

[2sheep]

I remembered you telling of your niece. Often children believe the Lord more readily than adults.

[DreamWeaver]

Often children believe the Lord more readily than adults.

Oh, so very true.

[Jeremiah Jr]

Although Tim clicks on most cylinders, there is one area that's not inspired by the Ruach HaKodesh, and that's the area of delayed judgment. There are 'moeds,' appointed times.

The Key To Averting Major New Madrid Quake Is Jerusalem

The above event (creation of a new gulf in North America) will eventually take place as the course of natural history, but need not take place in our generation. The key to delaying the formation of this gulf in the United States is Jerusalem. It is extremely important that we keep President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Sharon covered in prayer during their terms in office. Last week, during my daughters first birthday party, we lit one candle on the cake for my daughter Esther, and one for President Bush, with a prayer that God would clearly speak to him as he spoke to Moses in the burning bush. Three days later, we discovered that my daughter's birthday – June 12 – also happens to be the birthday of George Bush Sr.! Nothing occurs by accident. Just as President Bush's father won the Gulf War, his son can also win the current 'gulf war' (a war to prevent the formation of a new gulf in North America).

Joel is clear,

2

The Day of the Lord

28 "And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.

29 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.

30 I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke.

31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord .

32 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the Lord has said, among the survivors whom the Lord calls.

The sun will be turned into darkness...

Solar Eclipse

http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/TSE1999/TSE1999.html

and the moon to blood...

Lunar Eclipse

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/612949.stm

...before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of The LORD...

Joel 1

15   Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
16   Is not the meat cut off before our eyes, yea, joy and gladness from the house of our God?
17   The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.
18   How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.
19   O LORD, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.
20   The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.

The flocks of sheep are made desolate...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1257655.stm

And the last two G-8 summits fell out in the Haftarah portion of Jeremiah 1:1 -2:3 Actually, the 2000 meeting also ran into the week of the same portion.
http://www.angelfire.com/ny/HaTikvatYisrael/torah.html

Here's a key excerpt:

Jeremiah 1:13-19

13   And the word of the LORD came unto me the second time, saying, What seest thou? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north.
14   Then the LORD said unto me, Out of the north an evil shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.
15   For, lo, I will call all the families of the kingdoms of the north, saith the LORD; and they shall come, and they shall set every one his throne at the entering of the gates of Jerusalem, and against all the walls thereof round about, and against all the cities of Judah.
16   And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.
17   Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at their faces, lest I confound thee before them.
18   For, behold, I have made thee this day a defenced city, and an iron pillar, and brasen walls against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land.
19   And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee; for I am with thee, saith the LORD, to deliver thee.

***

The same week that the G-8 has met for the last three years, this section was read in the Synagoges around the world.

The Okinawa Summit 2000 Archives  - The G8 Kyushu Okinawa Summit was held in Nago City, Okinawa from July 21-23, 2000. This site provides a complete coverage of the ...
http:/www.summit-okinawa.gr.jp/e/

Italy, 2001  - ... G-8 Summit on July 20-22, 2001 ... Powell attended the Foreign Ministers meeting July ... 22/01 US Accomplishments, Genoa Summit --07/21/01 US Summit Report, G ...
http://www.state.gov/e/eb/ecosum/c3871.htm

G8 Summit - Government of Alberta  - ... The 2002 G8 Summit was held June 26 and 27, 2002 in Kananaskis, Alberta. The annual G8 Summit provided a forum for leaders of Canada, France, Germany, Italy ...
http://www.gov.ab.ca/home/g8/

Torah Portion schedule.  - 2001-2002 Bible Year 6001 Years from ... DATE TORAH Reading Name of Reading HAFTARA ... the SHEDREH READINGS only include the Torah ... 28 Psalm 141 Prov 8 Feb 9 Jeremiah 1 ...
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/torah.html

It's time...

to buckle those seat belts...
Joel 2 mode...

[Quix]

IF YOU HAVE LINKS, I'm happy to check them out.

Thanks for your reply.

[Quix]

I suspect there are many ways that geology could move to result in sinking of land on the east coast.

Perhaps a huge new volcano off the coast somewhere? Unlikely probably but perhaps could be.

I suspect the mountain building sort of movements might be more likely.

God alone knows. We shall see.

[Quix]

I forget the number and refs--will have to wait until I have the time to track them down when settled in NM--but 2-4 examples exist in the Old Test. of great star prophets of God missing it. They were not stoned. Nor were they considered false prophets. They just missed it.

I don't want ATT to get into an extensive thing on this as I have more or less no resources handy and time on the computer can be problematic. However . . .

I think God was talking about someone who is persistently saying things as though from God when God didn't say them. . . persistently wrong.

John Sanford says in--what--The Transformation of the Inner Man??? that prophets in OT times would take their Jr prophets and give them task after task after task THAT THEY COULD ***ONLY**** FAIL AT. . . until they came to the utter end of themselves and relied totally on God. There's little of that extensive sort of training these days. God does it some directly with some few persons. . . .relatively. But 30 years of it I've not heard of even with one person.

AND Christ seems to have instituted a much more BODY MINISTERING TO ITSELF AND OTHERS sort of format wherein we discern and sort with each other what we believe God is saying to us. That forces us to submit one to another as Christ modeled as Servant. I believe many, MANY ministries go off the deep end regularly if not terminally because the leadership refuses to follow that Model Christ and Paul set up--such as I Cor 14 again.

Also, I don't believe it's quite God's timing to have prophets flawlessly speaking forth--I hope I'm wrong and it seems like it's beginning to be God's time--perhaps Timothy Snodgrass is an example. We shall see.

I think we also often miss the focus or purpose of a prophecy and end up nitpicking as scribes and pharisees about this or that petty detail.

Christ had a habit of slicing through all the petty details and preconceived constructions on reality the scribes and pharisees were all wound up about and then Christ would shed a new light on even the core issue they were PRETENDING to be wound up about. I suspect if we want to avoid missing what He's doing in our era--at least on occasion--we may need to consider that tendency of Christ's.

I try to give learning prophets the freedom and grace to learn. Even the traditional Pentecostal denominations have managed such individuals and processes horribly in my view. Sometimes it seems like God is both incredibly careful about minute details that have to be exactly so--and at other times or in other aspects extremely nonchalant about things we think He'd be all fussed up about and that we want Him to be all fussed up about. His ways REALLY ARE (1) higher than ours and (2) beyond finding out. Yet we are to seek to know them more, better and apply them accordingly.

I think it is important for us to have HIS PASSIONS ABOUT HIS PRIORITIES--major in the things He majors in--or has for us to major in--and minor in the things He has for us to minor in. PRIDE ON ALL OUR SIDES can easily be used of satan to foul up such a prioritizing. We see through a glass darkly. He may be shining more light and giving us a clear glass as our era progresses toward the final wind down of history as we know it. BUT I SERIOUSLY DOUBT HE is going to give any one person a corner on revelation, process, understanding, vision etc.

HE EXPECTS HIS BODY TO WORK TOGETHER AS A UNIFIED BODY SUBMITTING ONE TO ANOTHER IN LOVE; LOVING EACH OTHER THAT THE WORLD MAY KNOW. . . . ETC. Otherwise, i doubt the degree of supernatural manifestations will escalate as much as they obviously will according to The Bible.

I suspect all of us will have our even Biblical preconceptions and sensibilities adjusted as we seek to follow Christ, listening to His still small voice; feeding on His Word etc.

Just IMHO.

[Quix]

THANKS FOR YOUR DILIGENT AND PERSISTENTLY KIND AND HELPFUL POSTS. Certainly food for thought and prayer.

[Quix]

THANKS FOR A KIND POST. THOUGHT PROVOKING.

[Quix]

VERY FITTING POINTS.

I believe there are many doctrines of men that will have to bite the dust.

I believe all of us will have surprises as God adjusts our understanding.

I believe many prophecies are for prayer to prevent or moderate. I believe many pictures, visions are somewhat TYPE oriented--not necessarily to the detail of exactly what will happen in a given locale but the essence of what will happen. Others are probably to the detail exactly what will happen.

[Quix]

I BELIEVE IF WE COULD COLLECT the visions and dreams of children from around the world, the volume would be extremely impressive in size and in content. . . shocking and sobering as well.

[Quix]

A "friend" of mine who claims to be God's #1 general for the whole world for our era would agree with you.

I'm not convinced. I think this is all just birth pangs. If that much is past--I'd almost be glad--sooner HOME.

[Quix]

I SUSPECT YOU WOULD BE WISE TO keep a journal of your dreams and see what God reveals through the process and the journal.

Perhaps you are already.

[Quix]

WHAT IS THE TRUTH IN THIS CASE?

Great question. We are all challenged with sorting out the signal from the noise.

I only know at this point:

(A) there was a subtle but above average quickening in my spirit when I read Timothy Snodgrass's stuff the first time.

(B) it fits (1) my understanding of The Bible and (2) my understanding of what God is doing in our era and (3) my understanding of what God is likely to do in America given our paltry response to 911 as a nation.

(C) our own FR colleague and spouse assert that they know Timothy S personally and strongly vouch for his authenticity and the accuracy of his prophetic statements.

(D) I have felt in my spirit a building toward something that feels awesome and mixed with God's majesty and great trauma. I suspect it has to do with natural and perhaps manmade disasters and God showing His power to save and demonstrate His glory in the midst of such--even more than He did in 911 though such got RELATIVELY little publicity. I think it will be harder to ignore God's part in upcoming events. The Tim S stuff COULD fit such feelings of my own.

BUT THE BASIC TRUTHS remain the same. God IS. God Loves us. God IS GOD--not us. He and His perfection require OUR SUBMISSION TO HIM--he's not our butler. He Communicated through HIS WORD and does directly to our spirits and minds. HE COMMUNICATED MOST EMPHATICALLY THROUGH HIS SON and proved it by His Resurrection.

HE'S FULFILLING BIBLE PROPHECY SEEMINGLY DAILY IF NOT HOURLY. THE HEAVENS DECLARE HIS HANDIWORK.

THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK TO KNOW HIM WILL FIND HIM. Those who want rationalizations to be their own god and do their own thing will find plenty of rationalizations--for a time. At some point, all grounds for rationalizations will vanish--evidently--as the heavens are rolled back as a scroll, whatever that means.

What's the truth--I guess we have to stay tuned to find out for sure.