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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge denies defense motion to sequester jury

By Jeff Dillon and Steve Perez
SIGNONSANDIEGO

August 15, 2002

Judge William D. Mudd addressed counsel on a motion by defense attorney Steven Feldman regarding media access to jurors in the trial of defendant David Westerfield at San Diego courthouse, August 15, 2002. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam from her Sabre Springs home, last February.  REUTERS/POOL/Dan TrevanArguing that media coverage was creating a "lynch mob mentality" that could pressure jurors to return a guilty verdict, the defense attorney for David Westerfield today asked the judge yet again to sequester the jury.

While the jury completed its first week of deliberations without a verdict, Superior Court Judge William Mudd denied the request and a related motion to "pull the plug" on television and radio coverage of the courtroom proceedings, but agreed to set aside a private room for jurors to take breaks. Defense attorney Steven Feldman had argued that reports suggested jurors felt like they were under siege, unable to leave their deliberating room, go to lunch or walk home without being watched or followed.

"We have no assurance that they are not be intimidated ... by the presence of the media," Feldman told Mudd during a morning hearing. "We can think of only one fair resolution to that: Get the jury out of harm's way."

 

'Broccoli heads'

He cited an incident earlier in the week in which radio talk show hosts from KFI-AM 640 in Los Angeles broadcast from outside the courthouse, waving stalks of broccoli around and reportedly calling jurors "broccoli heads" for being unable to return a quick guilty verdict.

Westerfield, 50, could face the death penalty if convicted of kidnapping 7-year-old Danielle van Dam from her family's Sabre Springs home on Feb. 2 and killing her. Jurors are in their sixth day of deliberations.

Lead prosecutor Jeff Dusek disagreed with Feldman's interpretations of the jury's complaints.

"Whether or not any guilty verdict in this case would be based on a siege mentality or the meida I think is pure speculation and utterly false in this case," Dusek said.

What the jurors had complained about was being watched all the time, he said.

"That hardly equates to being under siege," he said.

 

Trust in the jury

Mudd dismissed most of Feldman's concerns, saying that the jurors had only asked a bailiff to keep reporters a little bit farther away, though an alternate juror reported that he or she had been followed to his car.

Media coverage has diminished since the jurors began deliberating, the judge said.

"The synopsis programs on the two local TV networks are not in place," he said. "The talking heads are doing nothing but speculating about what the jury may or may not be thinking."

Mudd said there were no signs that jurors were being harassed by the public, especially since their names and faces haven't been publicized.

"We've all sat here and picked this jury, know their makeup and know their dedication to this cause," Mudd said. "I would prefer to think that any verdict they make in this case would be based upon the evidence."

Sequestering the jury also wouldn't protect them from any public reaction to the verdict, Mudd said.

 

'The activities of a few'

"The tragedy is, the majority of the people in this courtroom are abiding by the court's orders and working very hard to insure they, meaning the media, do not cause something to occur that is going to cause a mistrial," Mudd said. "Not all of them feel that way as is very apparent with the activities of a few."

Mudd took aim at two radio program hosts from Los Angeles who he previously described as "idiots."

"I suppose it's entertainment out of LA. I hope it stays in LA," he said. "The shows those two gentlemen put on made the court incredulous as to what they were attempting to do."

Mudd also announced:

 



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To: KnutCase
"The sniffer dogs cannot place Danielle in the MH"

Or his SUV.
721 posted on 08/16/2002 7:13:47 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
Do you know where I could get a job in Quality Assurance that would pay between $150K and $180K per?!

(That was the "demographic" I just read about for the Sabre Springs neighbourhood.)

On second thought, never mind. I live in a socialists' "paradise", and I'd probably only see about $50K of that salary!
722 posted on 08/16/2002 7:15:25 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: the Deejay
And I trust the word of a doctor. They are pretty discerning. At least if I use my daughter and her husband as examples. They have contact with so many people every day that they soon learned to read people real fast.
723 posted on 08/16/2002 7:15:33 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Does NOT have to be equal! The total burden on proof is on the prosecution, none on the defense. The bug guys are just the icing on the cake.
724 posted on 08/16/2002 7:15:39 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: small_l_libertarian
Gosh, if we were face-to-face, I would get out the checkers and stack up red and black checkers in various random stacks. Then repeat. You would soon get the idea of how 12 of 13 such stacks would not be much of a coincidence at all, especially after the little genetics lesson beforehand.

I guess the best "short" explanation I can offer is -- what are the odds of picking 12 of 13 winning numbers in the lottery? And then saying the odds of this in the DNA thang are even greater, unless there is an identical twin or some SERIOUS inbreeding over several generations in the individuals in question.

I know the MtDNA in hair doesn't degrade very fast, but I don't know how fast nuclear DNA in the root degrades. Sorry, not an expert in that. If you find that info, please, please ping me!!!

725 posted on 08/16/2002 7:16:26 PM PDT by wonders
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To: NatureGirl; KnutCase
Wow! You're that old? You type so much younger.

I think I rattled our dear KnutCase in the prior thread.
S/he stated they were 60 years older than I. I pointed out that it would make them 103 years old and senility could be expected.

726 posted on 08/16/2002 7:16:43 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: small_l_libertarian
I'll put this up for general consuption,and please-I can't cite where I saw this(want to say it was the WSJ,but it was a few years back),so this is an anecdote.

A few years ago,there was a case in the UK(murder,or rape,or both-don't recall correctly),and there was some evidence available that could be used for DNA testing,so the cops did that.

Since the area was remote,and rural,and the UK laws are much different from ours,the cops took a shotgun approach-they just took samples from everyone they could lay hands on in a 5 mile radius of the crime. They got a match,and made an arrest. There was a problem.

The guy they arrested had been 200 miles away from the crime scene when it happened,and had witnesses and hotel receipts to prove it. They had to let him go.

What had happened is that the lab had done an sort of "initial screening" test,and was only looking for a relatively small number of markers. Since the area was rural,and hadn't seen any population influxes in a century,what with marrying back and forth,and everyone being related to everyone to at least some degree,a lot of people in that area were carrying around some of the same gene markers. More detailed testing revealed another suspect,who-IIRC-confessed,but I wonder what would have happened to the first guy if he hadn't kept his hotel receipts.

727 posted on 08/16/2002 7:17:04 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: dread78645
I noted that there were some weird things being said about ages on last night's thread!
728 posted on 08/16/2002 7:19:32 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: JudyB1938
Mummification was done in a refridgerator for week and half or so, but it didn't stop the bugs after the body was dumped about 2/16. I sometimes design frigs, they dry everything not sealed up.
729 posted on 08/16/2002 7:19:44 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: wonders
I understand the likelihood of matching someone else's DNA, but how can a person not match their own DNA exactly?

If I pulled out a hair and drew blood from my arm and ran a DNA test on both of them, what possible reason(s) could there be for them not being exactly alike?

I will ping you if I find the info. VRWC_minion provided a link that said "very quickly," but didn't say exactly how long "very quickly" is. That was better than any link I had found.
730 posted on 08/16/2002 7:20:16 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: sawsalimb
I remember that, but had forgotten about it. Maybe the dark recesses of my mind are why I am having trouble accepting the "less than" DNA matches.
731 posted on 08/16/2002 7:20:25 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Jaded
They have to find him guilty of something.

Of course. The cops wouldn't arrest you unless you're guilty.

732 posted on 08/16/2002 7:22:30 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: dread78645
Sorry to disappoint you...but you don't get to my age if you get rattled. If you don't take things too seriously you can live to 100. Ask George Burns. Ask Bob Hope. Oops....can't ask George....sorry.
733 posted on 08/16/2002 7:22:42 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: sawsalimb
Very interesting case! Which is why I said in my earilier post about our being so genetically diverse here in the US. We're quite a mobile society.

If you come across that article again, I do hope you will ping me. I'd be most interested in learning how many and which markers were tested. Fascinating!

734 posted on 08/16/2002 7:23:12 PM PDT by wonders
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To: sawsalimb
I remember reading that! The guy would have been "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt," that's what.
735 posted on 08/16/2002 7:24:41 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: NatureGirl
I would guess more like $100k in southern CA, but not most of the country. He had $110,000 house near Dallas 4 years ago.
736 posted on 08/16/2002 7:25:43 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: small_l_libertarian
Oops! I hit "private reply" by mistake. Maybe you can post my reply publicly, as I've lost what I wrote. (feeling really dumb, here) I'd like to keep it public so others can disagree or contribute more. Thanks!
737 posted on 08/16/2002 7:29:38 PM PDT by wonders
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To: sawsalimb
I wonder what would have happened to the first guy if he hadn't kept his hotel receipts. Well, he wouldn't have had to worry about the death penalty. Small comfort.

I think the problem in this case is that it's all boiling down to the science involved. Since science (supposedly) doesn't lie, then DNA-fibre-entomology all have to be considered equal: all have certainly been used to convict. If you say "DNA is not an exact science", you have to admit the possiblity at least that the other two fields are flawed as well. If you take that route, then all that forensic evidence should be thrown out as "not reliable enough" - or all must be given equal weight as being "definitely reliable".

So you end up with the blocked discussions we have here - some say the DNA-fibre is good enough for a conviction, others say the bugs are good enough for an acquittal.

If you remove all three forensic fields from the equation, what evidence is left?
738 posted on 08/16/2002 7:30:14 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: JudyB1938
I don't have a problem with the concept of using DNA matches. The problem is where the people in charge of collecting evidence and testing evidence are less than credible. Unfortunately,a lot of people have gotten to think of DNA results as a magic wand that cures everything and answers all questions. If evidence is altered,or planted(as I strongly suspect happened in this case),the sheer weight and credibility that DNA tests have gained over the past few years are liable to divert attention from the eternal question of "Who guards the guards?" And that's a question that,IMO,needs to be asked 24 hours a day,7 days a week.
739 posted on 08/16/2002 7:30:27 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: NatureGirl
An unrolled hose.
740 posted on 08/16/2002 7:31:34 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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