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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge denies defense motion to sequester jury

By Jeff Dillon and Steve Perez
SIGNONSANDIEGO

August 15, 2002

Judge William D. Mudd addressed counsel on a motion by defense attorney Steven Feldman regarding media access to jurors in the trial of defendant David Westerfield at San Diego courthouse, August 15, 2002. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam from her Sabre Springs home, last February.  REUTERS/POOL/Dan TrevanArguing that media coverage was creating a "lynch mob mentality" that could pressure jurors to return a guilty verdict, the defense attorney for David Westerfield today asked the judge yet again to sequester the jury.

While the jury completed its first week of deliberations without a verdict, Superior Court Judge William Mudd denied the request and a related motion to "pull the plug" on television and radio coverage of the courtroom proceedings, but agreed to set aside a private room for jurors to take breaks. Defense attorney Steven Feldman had argued that reports suggested jurors felt like they were under siege, unable to leave their deliberating room, go to lunch or walk home without being watched or followed.

"We have no assurance that they are not be intimidated ... by the presence of the media," Feldman told Mudd during a morning hearing. "We can think of only one fair resolution to that: Get the jury out of harm's way."

 

'Broccoli heads'

He cited an incident earlier in the week in which radio talk show hosts from KFI-AM 640 in Los Angeles broadcast from outside the courthouse, waving stalks of broccoli around and reportedly calling jurors "broccoli heads" for being unable to return a quick guilty verdict.

Westerfield, 50, could face the death penalty if convicted of kidnapping 7-year-old Danielle van Dam from her family's Sabre Springs home on Feb. 2 and killing her. Jurors are in their sixth day of deliberations.

Lead prosecutor Jeff Dusek disagreed with Feldman's interpretations of the jury's complaints.

"Whether or not any guilty verdict in this case would be based on a siege mentality or the meida I think is pure speculation and utterly false in this case," Dusek said.

What the jurors had complained about was being watched all the time, he said.

"That hardly equates to being under siege," he said.

 

Trust in the jury

Mudd dismissed most of Feldman's concerns, saying that the jurors had only asked a bailiff to keep reporters a little bit farther away, though an alternate juror reported that he or she had been followed to his car.

Media coverage has diminished since the jurors began deliberating, the judge said.

"The synopsis programs on the two local TV networks are not in place," he said. "The talking heads are doing nothing but speculating about what the jury may or may not be thinking."

Mudd said there were no signs that jurors were being harassed by the public, especially since their names and faces haven't been publicized.

"We've all sat here and picked this jury, know their makeup and know their dedication to this cause," Mudd said. "I would prefer to think that any verdict they make in this case would be based upon the evidence."

Sequestering the jury also wouldn't protect them from any public reaction to the verdict, Mudd said.

 

'The activities of a few'

"The tragedy is, the majority of the people in this courtroom are abiding by the court's orders and working very hard to insure they, meaning the media, do not cause something to occur that is going to cause a mistrial," Mudd said. "Not all of them feel that way as is very apparent with the activities of a few."

Mudd took aim at two radio program hosts from Los Angeles who he previously described as "idiots."

"I suppose it's entertainment out of LA. I hope it stays in LA," he said. "The shows those two gentlemen put on made the court incredulous as to what they were attempting to do."

Mudd also announced:

 



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To: wonders
Will be back after awhile...gotta relinquish my claim to the puter for a bit. I may cry uncle on this bug dispute when I get back though. :)
681 posted on 08/16/2002 6:34:30 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ican'tbelieveit
You mean 3 bug witnesses and a "ringer".
682 posted on 08/16/2002 6:37:50 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim yesterday this dicussion start not because of DW, but because of other young girls throughout the US who have been found murdered. Said people have had either a missing left foot or the left foot was covered by a sock.

On "google" there were over 17,000 sites that came up. I kept narrowing my search. In India, South AMerica, Native AMerican tribes; virgins have been sacrificed and the left foot was involved.

FLAME AWAY!
There was also a Video Gaming site called the LEFT FOOT.

Now isn't it possible that WE as a nation have been so involved with the individual cases, that we haven't seen the BIG picture. We may have more than one perp with similar "religious" beliefs.
683 posted on 08/16/2002 6:38:23 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: wonders
Oh, no, silly. I know you weren't calling me wrong. In fact I admitted myself that I am probably wrong. But, hey ... those experts you cited? They are BUG MEN. No "similar to" for them! No, what was it ... a deficient 13 out of 15 DNA markers that are the same to make a PERFECT MATCH! Barf!

The forensic entymologists are true scientists. I do not believe the "forensic experts" are. They play with the evidence to make it say whatever they want it to. "Similar to" CREATIVE ACCOUNTING.
684 posted on 08/16/2002 6:38:53 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: wonders
If you go with the later body placement suggested by the bugs, the body was exposed for two weeks or less. My own judgement was that that was fairly quick mummification. That was just my opinion.
685 posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:23 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Do you think the jury will request a re-reading of Goff's testimony? Very doubtful.
686 posted on 08/16/2002 6:40:21 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: KnutCase; ican'tbelieveit
Knutcase...good one. On a serious note, the prosecution and many do believe the blood etc was transferred to dw's property by criminal means. The defense hasn't given some of us any reason to believe the blood, fibers, hairs etc got there by innocent means. If they had just ONE witness claiming to see danielle and friends or brothers sneaking in the MH, the gloves would have been off....and I'd have to wonder if the prosecution had a case at all. They couldn't get one friend or brother to confirm that theory.

687 posted on 08/16/2002 6:40:26 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: KnutCase
Even that, 3 up.
688 posted on 08/16/2002 6:41:05 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: wonders
Well, if you take into account the date the Bug Men indicated and the fact that mummification had already set in, I personally think that's quick. But there again, I might be wrong.
689 posted on 08/16/2002 6:41:56 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
There are also NO witnesses to back up the prosecution's contention that Westerfield was ever in the van Dam house.

But we're expected to just believe that? The state has to PROVE what it suggests, the defense does not.
690 posted on 08/16/2002 6:42:09 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: hoosiermama
I really do have to leave, I'm not trying to evade your questions etc...and it's all about discussion. It's rude to flame for that..and I'm sorry you feel that I would do it. That does bother me. Cya after awhile.
691 posted on 08/16/2002 6:42:44 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The prosecution did not prove it was "blood."

The prosecution did not prove the "fibers" belonged to anyone.

The prosecution did not prove who the "hair" belonged to.

Now, if you want to go on the print alone, I will give the prosecution 1.

The dogs didn't hit Westerfield's motorhome, how come? We have all seen dogs locate people buried under rubble of collapsed buildings.

Defense is still up 3.

692 posted on 08/16/2002 6:45:02 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: KnutCase
I'm not quite sure if I am catching the drift of your comment. It sounds like you think I think DW is a satanist. I don't. But I DO believe the Demon is capable of it.

But really who I have in mind is that international porn group, who are KNOWN to abuse/rape/video children right there in that area. Don't forget the backpack they found at the park. It is very feasible that Danielle decided to go to the park and was abducted by one of those men.

Danielle had gone to the park alone before. Brenda SAID she'd watch from her yard. Hah! I believe that one. NOT!
693 posted on 08/16/2002 6:45:57 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: small_l_libertarian
If you go with the later body placement suggested by the bugs, the body was exposed for two weeks or less. My own judgement was that that was fairly quick mummification. That was just my opinion.

I don't know anything about mummification,but a few years ago I got to work for a while in the desert in Southern Cal.(Barstow,to be precise). I was there from March to July,and the spring wasn't as hot as I expected,but it's very dry indeed. I'd guess that a small cadaver could start to dry out pretty fast.

694 posted on 08/16/2002 6:46:55 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Well, here's another bit of transcript (to save your eyes and keep you from having to wade through but testimony): From Haskell's testimony:

Q SO HOWEVER LONG THE BODY WAS THERE BEFORE IT GOT OPENED UP WOULD HAVE MUMMIFIED THE EXTERIOR OF THE BODY.

A AGAIN, IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH ANIMALS FEEDING, USUALLY THEY WILL COME IN AND FEED RATHER EARLY ON THE FRESHER TISSUES, NOT -- I DON'T THINK THAT THE ANIMALS, THE CARNIVORES, WOULD WAIT UNTIL THAT TISSUE IS TOO BADLY MUMMIFIED BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO CHEW, HARD TO TEAR OFF. IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEY COULD HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER HAD THE EXPERIENCE TO PULL OFF MUMMIFIED TISSUES OFF A BODY, BUT IT CAN BE QUITE DIFFICULT AND QUITE TOUGH TO DO THAT. AND SO IT WOULD BEHOOVE THE ANIMALS TO FEED WHEN THOSE TISSUES ARE MUCH WETTER AND FRESHER.

It needs a little common sense, folks. Coyotes and the like prefer fresh bodies. Why would they wait to feed on the body until it was already dried out on the exterior and putrefied in the interior? Crazy nut theory of Duseks, IMO.

Also, in my own experience, animal activity tended to occur during the first days. After that, didn't see much -- unless pigs were loose in the area. Pigs will eat the most disgusting things. Wish I'd never seen it.

695 posted on 08/16/2002 6:47:27 PM PDT by wonders
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The skin is the issue..it was mummified first

From what I have read in the transcripts, only the extremeties and face areas were mummified

the body fluids are the second issue..they did not settle beneath the body like normal

Kim, if the corpse did not show normal signs of livor mortis, then that would be evidence that the body was moved, wasn't it testified to that the body did not appear to be moved?

The third issue is that since the body didn't decompose in the normal way, the standards for testing the TOD or even Date of dumping..has to be altered to account for the oddities. (don't you just love normal discussions without the bs)

Kim, from my understanding, the body decomposed in a very normal way, except for the "mummificaton" - to mummify a body takes some pretty extreme arid/hot conditions - and a storage compartment just doesn't seem like a good place to get the factors that play into this.

696 posted on 08/16/2002 6:49:47 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: small_l_libertarian
No probs if you're calling two weeks or less "quick" mummification -- I wouldn't call that "quick" either, but perfectly normal. Dusek was talking about hours and days. Again, I stress PARTIAL mummification as we all know the interior organs were certainly not mummified.
697 posted on 08/16/2002 6:51:35 PM PDT by wonders
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Two BIG things stand out in this case:

1. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that places DW in Danielle's bedroom.

2. The sniffer dogs cannot place Danielle in the MH that weekend.

If you cannot place the suspect at the scene of the crime...and if you cannot place the victim in the MH (getaway vehicle)...you have a HUGE area of reasonable doubt. Case closed. Go look for another suspect. Any suggestions as where to start?
698 posted on 08/16/2002 6:52:15 PM PDT by KnutCase
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To: wonders
I don't contend in any way that the body was mummified any deeper than the skin, except that the hands were completely mummified.

You are the second person to tell me that's not so quick, so I withdraw my comment.
699 posted on 08/16/2002 6:54:08 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: KnutCase
There you go, defense is back up 4.

So lets give Kim the porn just for giggles (again, not proven, and the "rape" scene is not a crime according to the Supreme Court), Defense still up 3.

700 posted on 08/16/2002 6:54:23 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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