Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)

Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

[dread78645]

... Watkins's testimony indicates he never saw the disks in question until Youngflesh waved around an envelope and said, "Aha! Look what I found!" ...
What kind of moron keeps secret stuff "hidden" in that sort of highly visible manner...or writes down all his passwords and stores them in a highly visible white envelope sticking up on the shelf? ...

Yep. the Youngflesh "evidence" smells like yesterdays fish.

But the password thing is normal. I've seen clients who'll put their password on a post-it note on their monitor, or pencil it on the keyboard.
Stealth Ninja Dave is slipping.

[KnutCase]

Doesn't sound like a good hiding place. If I was DW and truly wanted it well hidden, wouldn't I put it in a locked file cabinet for instance?

[shezza]

Ah, I completely forgot that Neal said he had looked at a few of the pix. Mea culpa. (However, I still stand by my premise that Youngflesh could have planted additional photos, as he had them in his possession for who knows how long before he presented them with a flourish to Watkins.) Thanks for the correction.

[Jaded]

As far as I know, the PH testimony is not a part of the actual trial so they wouldn't get to see it.

[spectre]

Whoops..sorry AM..I didn't see your post. I'll behave..

sw

[pinz-n-needlez]

That's what I was afraid of. :-( Bummer.

But it does enlighten us, and apparently Feldman is on to them. If the jury comes back with guilty, this would still be useful on appeal or in other future litigations on Westerfield's behalf.

thanks, Jaded.

[Mark was here]

Juror Profiles

[KnutCase]

I still want to know why the FBI was involved from Day 1. The reason they got involved so quickly with Elizabeth Smart case is because police thought she could have been taken across state line, thereby requiring FBI. Who asked for the Feds? I am sure they were not justing driving thru the neighborhood and noticed some activity on the Van Dam's street and stopped to see if they could help.

[Jaded]

I'm curious about what else was on the loose media. I remember there were folders called "Neal's music". IMO, what happened was a blind back up was done of data files and poof!!! They weren't exactly hidden.

The other thing, when you get new software or signup for stuff online they tell you to write down your name, password and sn (if needed) and keep it in a safe place. Back-ups, passwords in envelope. Duh. Face it, it was on the shelf standing up with the books so LE would say it was hidden. Heck they'd probably say that if it was on top.

[FresnoDA]

Me too...(reluctantly...no more having fun!)

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Thank you so much for posting the links that reveal some of the shenanigans that have occurred in SD County.

If these well documented incidents don't at least give pause to the "hang 'em now" crowd, they simply choose to deny reality.

[Rheo]

WOMAN STRANGLED

A young woman is strangled; her naked body dumped near Balboa Golf Course and the killer is still on the loose.

It's been a year and a half since a police found the body of Diane Ayers, 23, off Golf Course Drive. Ayers lived with her mother in South Park, just nine blocks away from the spot where her body was found.

Almost every weekend, Diane would go country dancing in Mission Valley and police suspect she may have met up with a stranger.

It was Labor Day weekend, 1999 on a Saturday afternoon. A group of golfers discovered the naked body of Diane Marie Ayers in the bushes off the side of the road near Balboa Golf Course. Her body was found nude, but according to pathologists, she was not sexually assaulted.

Diane was 23 years old at the time of her death, but she looked much younger. Based on evidence at the scene, police believe Diane was strangled at a different location. The killer probably drove her to the golf course area because it was dark. He then pulled in to a dirt turnout by the side of the road and dragged her body into the bushes.

She had one white sock on her left foot. Investigators never found the rest of her clothes or the blue-gray backpack that she always carried.

Diana was last seen by her mother two days before the murder. Carol Ayers says she has no idea why someone would want to hurt her daughter.

Diane used to shop at Horton Plaza and she would go country dancing in Mission Valley at a bar called "In Cahoots." She also hung out at a bar called "Snippy's" on Fern Street near her mother's home. The manager remembers Diane coming in and says she never drank alcohol. She simply ordered a soda and listened to music while waiting for her bus.

Diane did not have a driver's license and sometimes walked the streets by herself at night, returning home from a bus stop. Police say that may have been how she encountered her killer.

Diane had friends in the military and liked military people. But Carol Ayers says her daughter would never take rides with strangers. Now, a year and a half after Diane's murder her family and friends are still searching for answers.

[afraidfortherepublic]

If you do type up a summary of the findings, please ping me to it. I'm having a hard time keeping up on all this; but what I read here is in direct conflict with what many of the so-called "experts" are spouting on evening TV.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Good point, Knut. Could they have been called by the same person who decided not to test the unknown fingerprints and dna in the VD's house?

Could it be the same person who is yanking Mudd's chain about sequestration?

Could it be the same person who said go after DW and no one else?

Just asking.....

[Admin Moderator]

Got an abuse report that said (I edited it a bit here):

When you addressed your "be good" comment... you can see if you go back and read some of the newbie posts, why there might be flames.

That's fine. All I am saying is that we want to keep the primary forums free of flame wars. If there is a desire to have free-for-all style discussion, perhaps the thing to do would be to repost this thread over in the Smoky Back Room. Thanks, AM

[Mark was here]

Thanks, I all ready read that...Scary isn't it..

[Rheo]

Meant to address the other post to All, not you specfically.

[connectthedots]

As for your post #80, that guy would definitely not be a 'hung juror'.