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Deliberations Resume Friday, 8-9-02 In Trial Of David Westerfield (VERDICT WATCH CONTINUES!)
CNN.com ^
| August 9, 2002
| CNN
Posted on 08/08/2002 10:18:48 PM PDT by FresnoDA
Edited on 04/29/2004 2:00:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) --A San Diego jury began deliberations Thursday in the trial of David Westerfield, accused of kidnapping and killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.
The panel of six men and six women adjourned for the day without reaching a verdict. It is set to resume deliberations Friday.
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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 180frank; daniellevandam; davidwesterfield; vandamswingers; westerfield
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To: demsux
Yeah, the REALLY strange thing is that at 3:30 am+/-, according to DVD, the slider is found open...DVD figures it was left open by one of the pizza crowd that was smoking, IN THE KITCHEN? Well, see?
That explains why they had to repaint and recarpet the house.
To: demsux
AH Hah! You may be correct! I keep asking who the computer geek is that could run the Dw computers with no one at home. Maybe BL????
To: VRWC_minion
You have to take all the evidence and testimony as one and then make an inference. FURTHER, EACH FACT WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO COMPLETE A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES NECESSARY TO ESTABLISH THE DEFENDANT'S GUILT MUST BE PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. IN OTHER WORDS, BEFORE AN INFERENCE ESSENTIAL TO ESTABLISH GUILT MAY BE FOUND TO HAVE BEEN PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, EACH FACT OR CIRCUMSTANCES UPON WHICH THE INFERENCE NECESSARILY RESTS MUST BE PROVED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
The instruction that Mudd was legally obliged to read the jury seems to contradict your assertion. Note the word: "EACH".
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:51:02 PM PDT
by
Yeti
To: formerDem
"Just interested in truth."
No, you aren't, THREADJACKEL.
To: formerDem
A REASONABLE, RATIONAL person would infer from all the circumstantial and direct evidence that David Westerfield committed this crime Just interested in truth.
Me too, splain me the bugs!
To: the Deejay
Perhaps you should re-think your political party......And return to *them*. 379 posted on 8/9/02 4:48 PM Pacific by the Deejay
I am only interested in the truth. I really don't care if the source of it may not be to my liking.
To: the Deejay
I'm not sure that he/she is a "threadjackal" check the definitions again...I think he/she is a "FIRECRACKER"
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:52:26 PM PDT
by
demsux
To: the Deejay
Since when does a business NOT want new business?? What kind of a business is that?
A business that fails.
I'll make a concerted effort to drive by and see what we can see. The Poway Sheriff's Dept personnel are very nice. From the news reports here about SdPd is that they shoot anything that moves. They have shot several people to death for raising a brick, a branch, a knife....
Try using the baton or Mace guys.
To: formerDem
Just interested in truth.Really? Gosh, I must have misread POST #356. I was certain it was a criticism of people with a different opinion and a declaration that anyone who didn't find DW guilty was unreasonable and irrational.
Hmmmmmm...... Maybe I need to read it again. I'll see if I can find where you talked about being interested in the truth.
To: demsux; All
That is their address - Bill Libby is 45 I believe.
390
posted on
08/09/2002 4:53:39 PM PDT
by
mommya
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Second readings have been helpful to me, south. :-)
To: SilentWitness
"A business that fails."
Exactly.
To: All
Off to dinner at some friends...mexican nite...fajita's, taco's, refried beans, cerveza...mmmmmmmmmmm
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posted on
08/09/2002 4:55:03 PM PDT
by
demsux
To: the Deejay
"No, you aren't, THREADJACKEL" lol. call me anything you want. i'm a tuff girl.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I sure wish we had an IGNORE button we could use so that we would not have to put up with posts that are contrary to the nature of the thread ... honest and polite discourse. I get so tired of people popping in here, causing trouble and then leaving. As far as that goes, there's a certain poster who WON'T leave. LOL
To: JudyB1938
Yeah, but he posts such nice pictures and funny captions.
Oh, wait, you're not talking about Fres, are you? LOL
To: demsux
Well, I felt something "nipping" at my ankle. So, it's a FIRECRACKER or a THREADWHACKER. The twin of VRWC_minion?
To: VRWC_minion
You don't make an inference for each piece.Actually you do consider each piece individually before you include it in the whole, and if the piece does not pass the reasonable douby criteria you discard it and then see if the DA's theory still holds water.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
"I was certain it was a criticism of people with a different opinion and a declaration that anyone who didn't find DW guilty was unreasonable and irrational. Hmmmmmm...... Maybe I need to read it again. I'll see if I can find where you talked about being interested in the truth."
Yes, I do think that anyone who doesn't think Westerfield did it is unreasonable and irrational. And I don't think being interested in the truth conflicts with that opinion.
To: pinz-n-needlez
Hope it's NOT me! I'm trying to unpack while I catch up. SO in out, in out,
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