[UCANSEE2]

Sounds like Danielle had a lot of friends over (children friends, kids who sneeze, drool, even bleed on occasion -- in other words, typical kids).

(1) If Brenda 'watches' the kids the way we think she does, Danielle could have had everyone on the planet in their house and Brenda wouldn't have known about it.

According to the neighbors, none of them KNEW the VD's closely, or let their kids play there.

Only one neighbor had a daughter that Danielle played with and that slept over. (the other neighbors probably didn't like the POT/COCAINE/EXSTACY/ and ORGIES in the GARAGE while their KIDS were around idea!)

SO, It would be real hard to tell if Danielle had LOTS OF FRIENDS over or not. (Maybe lots of UNWANTED/over 30 year old friends of her DAD's).

[Green]

I've seen several references to the VDs using cocaine in this thread. Where did that come from? I thought the only thing they admitted to was pot.

[CedarDave]

You're getting pretty far out there with that one. It's pretty obvious they had a strange lifestyle, and he may well have molested her (though why with all the available ladies around), but letting his friends do her too, that's way too sick even to be suggesting. And it badly hurts your other arguements about DW being innocent, or framed. The evidence is what it is, and those of us that are undecided are trying to come up with likely, reasonable alternatives for some of the more damning evidence. Danielle in the motor home with a nosebleed is plausible, DNA similar to hers from her mother "doing" DW is certainly plausible, but DVD giving his 7-year old daughter to his friends is not. You may have shot yourself badly with that suggestion.

[fatima]

You think that some of the men who came into the Van Dam house had sex with her.