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Is Free Republic a Failure?
vanity ^ | July 6, 2002 | B. A. Conservative

Posted on 07/06/2002 2:31:54 PM PDT by B. A. Conservative

"Founded in 1996 by Jim Robinson, Free Republic is a loosely organized group of grassroots Americans who support our Constitution and look for honesty, integrity and honor from those in government."

What is our mission? "Free Republic is dedicated to reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and is advocating a complete restoration of our constitutional republic." Jim Robinson has listed a great deal more worthwhile information and detail concerning the mission and a description of Free Republic. The current mission statement has been edited from an earlier version to account for past events. The original mission statement included language advocating the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton, then President of the United States. Free Republic accomplished that portion of its mission statement by playing a central role in the events culminating in the successful vote in the House of Representatives to Impeach William Jefferson Clinton. For its role in the impeachment, Free Republic is an unequivocal and unqualified success.

However in evaluating and measuring Free Republic's performance with regard to the larger and by far the more significant role, "reversing the trend of unconstitutional government expansion and a complete restoration of our constitutional republic", I think the leadership and members of Free Republic need to refocus their thinking. By using any yardstick of your own choosing, there are few if any parameters in which conservatives can claim any improvement. And in any small victories that might have occurred, I would ask that you point out the role played by Free Republic in bringing it about. In short, I think that Free Republic has lost its focus on its most important reason for being.

Before offering my suggestions for getting back on track, I would like offer some thoughts on how and why we have become distracted from the primary focus as so eloquently stated by Jim Robinson:

The two courses of action most likely to offer a speedy and effective return to our Constitutional Republic are political and judicial. The left has used judicial appointments very effectively against the Constitution. Reagan advanced the task of recovering the federal judiciary, but we still have a long way to go in this area. Nevertheless, strategic use of the courts could be a very effective weapon in our arsenal. I think this should be the topic of some very serious discussions on how we can use the courts to attack existing unconstitutional government actions, laws and regulations. It takes someone to bring an action, and some legal thought to make such efforts productive. Forum shopping and plaintiff seeking are actively used by our opposition. I think this is an area where we can do much more than we have been doing.

And that brings us to the area of the greatest interest to us all. And it is in this arena that we are more likely to bring the quick results that we all desire. Well thought out, carefully crafted political activism can be effective. And each election offers opportunities to build on prior successes and to learn from prior mistakes. I will proffer that we have done little more than chat or indulge in wishful thinking. Our attempts at organized planning, coordination or unification of efforts, orderly assignment of tasks and delegation of responsibilities have been largely non-existent. All volunteer labor is hard to harness and effectively deploy. But it is not impossible.

Our computers and the internet provide the means to share and coordinate our efforts. It could also provide the means of choosing our leaders, delegation of tasks and responsibilities, and our most powerful weapon in recruiting new talents. Every human on the planet that has an internet connection has access to our materials and our efforts. It is a means to make our voices heard and to recruit more voices.

Everyone that frequents this site has visions of making their voice heard and making their vote count. Individually our voices are lost in the crowd noise. And even with our dismal lack of voter turnout, there were still more than 100 million votes cast in the last presidential election. It is difficult to know that your vote counted when it constitutes such a small part of the total vote. Political parties make a difference in the outcomes of elections by pooling the votes of like-minded individuals. Political candidates exercise power because each supporter transfers a portion of their individual power to the candidate. Coalitions gain power by pooling the individual powers of their members.

Free Republic can exercise the power of a coalition through uniting behind either common candidates or common issues or both. By acting as a unit, we can multiply our political effectiveness considerably. By recruiting and enlarging or attracting new members or supporters, we can multiply our effectiveness even more. We have proved that we can be effective. Ask the House managers and other members of the House how Clinton came to be impeached in spite of all the efforts of the media to prevent it.

We are approaching another election in a few months. Traffic on this site will increase progressively as we get closer to election day. Our political clout and power will increase exponentially as our viewing numbers increase. No matter what anyone wishes, the polls will be relatively close and the outcome of the election uncertain until the polls are closed. We will only have a good idea of the outcome when the exit polls and returns begin to come in. Before Election Day, the closer the polling data and the more uncertain the outcome of the election, the more our votes and our voices will matter. The more unified we are leading up to the election, the more our voices will be heard, and the more our votes will be courted.

We will have zero influence on Democratic voters or candidates. Any efforts directed at Democratic candidates will be a complete waste of our time and resources. Almost all directed at Democratic votes will have the same sad results. But our efforts directed at Republican voters and candidates can have a tremendous impact on the election and more importantly on the campaign leading up to the election. And surprisingly, our efforts in this election could have an even greater impact on the election of 2004.

FreeRepublic has the power within its grasp to achieve its mission and change the course of history. Organization, delegation, and unity of purpose are the keys to success. On another thread, I have offered what I believe to be one solution to the problem. There may be others. That is what the mission of this forum is about. Let's Roll!


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To: FF578
"As a law enforcement officer.."

I was not going to attack you for your obvious stupidity. Stupidity is an accident of birth or failed education; it may not be your fault. Growing up in America accounts for a lot of the educational stupidity that exists on this site. But discovering that you are a law enforcement officer is frightening.

Do your self a favor: keep the mouse, but throw your keyboard away.

241 posted on 07/06/2002 10:57:34 PM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: Nick Danger
We need to stop worrying about what "the GOP" is doing and work on the voters.
How is that to be accomplished Nick? When, as a voter, you're given a list of "approved candidates" that don't meet the muster what do you do?
And what is your opinion of the necessity of being "registered" to vote?
You're registered to vote.
Moooove on up here and pull that lever darken that circle with your #2, and only #2, pencil.
Now that is something to be proud of indeed!

There's something very, very wrong with us. /Stripes spoof

242 posted on 07/06/2002 11:04:49 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
I still contend your "vote" is worthless.

We're doomed, eh? Oh well, time to crawl in a hole and die then. They got us. I just feel so persecuted now. Woe is me.

243 posted on 07/06/2002 11:16:53 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Nick Danger
We're doomed, eh?
Did I say that? NO! Don't play me for the fool!
Oh well, time to crawl in a hole and die then. They got us. I just feel so persecuted now. Woe is me.
Not a very smart come back from a person of your "purported" intelligence.
244 posted on 07/06/2002 11:26:45 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Nick Danger
I believe more and more every day that you're nothing more than a party hack.
245 posted on 07/06/2002 11:28:09 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Nick Danger
"Politicians can count....There are not enough of us to elect anybody."

How did Reagan get elected?

Who elected the 1994 Congress and why?

Assume for a moment that you are right. If there are not enough conservatives to elect conservative Republicans, are there enough conservatives that by not voting at all it would keep Republicans from being elected? "Vote" can become "veto".

If conservatives want to move Republicans to the right, and are willing not to vote for Republicans who do not move to the right, how will Republican politicians respond?

I think if they can actually count, they will move to the right. If I am wrong, then we are not going to see a return of freedom until at least one state secedes. What will trigger the secession? Right now our largest denomination of currency that is printed is the $100 dollar bill. If I am wrong, in an another decade, the $100 will be the smallest denomination of currency that is printed.

246 posted on 07/06/2002 11:28:59 PM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: jodorowsky
Yeah, just like Vince Foster committed suicide because the Wall Street Journal said mean things.

Oh great! Another Conspiracy Kook who makes us all look bad. I respect you as much as I respect Cynthia McKinney and her "Bush knew" CRAP!

Just an FYI...

247 posted on 07/06/2002 11:50:52 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: jammer
He/she/it did show up just about the time this turned into an unquestioning love fest for the neocons.
248 posted on 07/07/2002 4:19:59 AM PDT by steve50
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To: viaveritasvita
what do you call it?

None of your business.

249 posted on 07/07/2002 4:35:51 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: B. A. Conservative; Dales; Howlin; habs4ever
Is Freerepublic A Failure??? Not by ANY stretch of the imagination...None of us were born with an anchor on our ass, so if YOU feel it is a Failure...hit the road jack.
250 posted on 07/07/2002 4:38:35 AM PDT by Neets
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To: B. A. Conservative
We will have zero influence on Democratic voters or candidates

I'm afraid we need to start acting like liberals with organized focus groups.

The BEST way is to have an organized tax-PAYERS strike [ ie - temporarily stop paying taxes], although I can't think of a way for us to do that.

251 posted on 07/07/2002 4:49:39 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: AAABEST
What are you going to do?
252 posted on 07/07/2002 5:20:56 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: The Raven
"The BEST way is to have an organized tax-PAYERS strike [ ie - temporarily stop paying taxes], although I can't think of a way for us to do that."

I think there will come a time when this is likely and can be expected. First the disclaimer: I am not an attorney nor a CPA. Nor do I have any experience nor have I studied the problem. With that said, I have heard that it is a serious violation not to file a tax return. On the other hand, it is my understanding that failing to pay taxes is not a jailable offense. For most folks employed by others, stopping the payment of their taxes is not directly within their reach. For those in that category, they can curtail the amount that is taken out of their check in withholding by increasing the number exemptions claimed to the point that no income tax is withheld from their checks, but they cannot stop FICA. Employers and the self employed have more leverage. They can file the forms of the amount of income or FICA that is due, but not enclose the tax that is due. Eventually the IRS will take action to collect the tax. And it is predictable that they will use the most punitive avenue open to them. They will seize bank accounts first. This will be followed by seizures of financial accounts like brokerage accounts or mutual funds held outside of 401's or IRA's. Next they will seize property and post it for sale.

A genuine massive taxpayer revolt of simply stopping payment would overwhelm the IRS and very likely bring the government down. I have no idea how the subsequent anarchy would play out or what to expect in its aftermath.

As much as I want the present tyranny to end through peaceful restructuring by restoration of the Constitution, I am not sure that the time has come to risk anarchy just to end the present government. There is always the risk that an even greater tyranny would arise from the ashes of anarchy.

253 posted on 07/07/2002 6:05:20 AM PDT by B. A. Conservative
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To: OneidaM
Yup.....instead of an opus vanity, why don't they just leave to greener pastures?
254 posted on 07/07/2002 7:55:06 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever
Maybe they are so shallow in their thinking that they need these boring diatrabes for the attention they seek...ya got me toots.
255 posted on 07/07/2002 7:56:16 AM PDT by Neets
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To: Bill D. Berger
Post 89:
I'm just getting through this thread. Good post(s), BDB.

I see more and more attempts to put everyone into categories, but very few "conservatives" agree with EVERY conservative ideal. The attempts to stereotype and attack different ideals (even the slightest deviation from the norm) drive people away from this forum and discourage posts (i.e., discussion).

We should be able to share thoughts and opinions without being attacked at every turn. I, personally, consider myself very conservative, but don't follow the mainstream conservative views on religion...does that mean I should be castigated while expressing my views?
256 posted on 07/07/2002 8:40:44 AM PDT by JSloth
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To: FF578
So you are now in favor of ending the War on some Drugs because you agree that the ends do not justify the means and that trashing the Constitution just to catch some druggie is plain wrong and evil? Congratulations! You have finally seen the light and are on your way to becoming a whole human being!
257 posted on 07/07/2002 10:39:49 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: B. A. Conservative
You can't expect one website to change the country. More than anything, the most important thing that FreeRepublic can do is influence public opinion. I hope that a lot of lurkers and libs have changed their minds due to what they have read on freerepublic.
258 posted on 07/07/2002 11:02:28 AM PDT by Michael2001
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To: steve50; DBtoo; varon
Agree with all each of you says. But, really, I see less liberal disruption, DBToo, (course I can't read everything) than steve50's neoCon "disruption." Seems to me that, although we've always had dogmatism combined with ignorance, we have much more ad hominem arguments and wild-eyed dogmatism with much less reasoning and give and take. Of course, the government creep disruptors/apologists are just as, if not more so, prevalent. I definitely include ff578 in the wild-eyed category: he/she/it just throws out rhetorical bombs. Must be nice to not only have principles but to be so sure that one's intellectual opponents are all evil. Hmmmm...that description seems to describe most liberal thought today. Ironic!
259 posted on 07/07/2002 11:03:23 AM PDT by jammer
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To: B. A. Conservative
Do your self a favor: keep the mouse, but throw your keyboard away.

Great line. And so appropriate!

260 posted on 07/07/2002 11:28:21 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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