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Posted on 06/18/2002 10:23:29 PM PDT by Mo1

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To: .38sw
You'll be able to recall just how close together a forest of lodgepole pine grows [for those who have never seen a lodgepole pine forest--they can grow so tightly together that a man can't ride a horse through the trees]......those fires a couple of years back decimated so much of that.

From the Idaho side, just before you reach the summit of Lost Trail Pass, you can see where the fires burned.....and you can continue to see--often on both sides of the highway--and in a number of places where the fires jumped the highway--all the way to about 2 miles north of Hamilton, MT. I clocked it the first time I drove it because it was such a shock....a 50 mile stretch!

The landscape was so eerie....where once had stood the wonder of God's creation--the beauty of the dark green forests raising majestically up to the blue, blue sky.....now reduced to a black, sooty somber testimony to what once was....there are trunks of trees burnt to a crisp, with an odd-looking branch reaching scraggly towards the sky as though trying to save itself from drowning! There are large areas where the soil looks black. Other areas look like someone took toothpicks, spraypainted them black, and stuck them into the landscape to indicate where trees used to be!!

When we drove over the first time to get my Dad to the airport, he was quiet for a long time and then said something like "I'll never live long enough to see anywhere near a return"....and then he said, "Sissy, you won't live long enough to see those trees grow up again". And he's right....sadly, he's right.

And their reasoning is just as stupid as the reasoning given for why the 4 firefighters lost their lives last year because no one would/could/did give an order to get some water there to save their lives!<

They can call it 'environmentalism' all they want--it is, in reality, sheer stupidity.

701 posted on 06/21/2002 7:43:36 PM PDT by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
Probably a tenderloin, but maybe not.

To me the tenderloin of anything vertebrate is just the best. ;-)

PS: Course if it weren't vertibrate, it wouldn't have a tenderloin. Genius.
702 posted on 06/21/2002 7:51:47 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: .38sw
Oh, Gee, I just heard on 20/20 that former Secretary of State James Baker's little 7 year old grandaughter drowned last weekend in the pool. How sad.
703 posted on 06/21/2002 7:52:35 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: Rowdee; sweetliberty
What continually blows me away about these hypocritical enviro-whachos use "protecting endangered species" as their big hammer for stopping forest management activities. Well, guess what? Catastrophic fires with flame lenghts reaching 200 feet, and producing hydrophobic soils and hillsides washing into the creeks don't do much for protecting the habitat. I don't believe that it is about "protecting the environment". I believe that it is about control, and the kids that do the protesting and such are nothing but useful idiots. They know NOTHING about science. It's emotional.
704 posted on 06/21/2002 7:57:23 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: .38sw
They're idealists, the kids that protest. But you're right. Their knowledge of science in most cases is limited to the junk science rhetoric that they hear regurgitated by the mouthpieces of the movements. I have little doubt that there is something more sinister in the intent of the environmental lobby, but I do not presume to know what it is, other than control, as you suggested. But for what purpose?
705 posted on 06/21/2002 8:03:55 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Darlin'
That good old southern christian hypocrit at play again, eh? Just because you are the catty, cunning one, you think everyone else tries to be?

Get over yourself, woman...you obviously haven't the faintest idea what I did or didn't do, tried or didn't try....you just think you're so damn important that you can meter out other peoples feelings, motives, ideas, characteristics or whatnot.

This is so laughable ...."You went out of your way to be rude to me"....sweetie, I wouldn't walk across the road to give you a glass of water if your guts were on fire--that's how important you are to me, so whatever makes you think I would waste my time trying to be 'rude' to you! You apparently wouldn't know rude if it up and bit your butt! Your opinion of yourself exceeds reality greatly.

Using people? Aren't you just special--trying to impute your character traits into or onto others!

...."It was an awkward, conspicious and ill mannered stretch even for someone who was obviously raised in a barn"....

The only awkward, conspicious and ill-mannered stretch around here is from the three-dollar bill making believes she's important enough to warrant anyone trying to do anything to her! What part of "you ain't that important" don't you understand? And if your 'barn' reference means anything, I suggest it beats your brothel or dog house upbringing!

As I said, you deal with it....

706 posted on 06/21/2002 8:08:27 PM PDT by Rowdee
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To: sweetliberty
I've concluded that the desire for control is rooted in communism. They love power, and they can't have it if people are free. It's not just the public lands that are under assault, it's private property as well. If the Fish and Wildlife Service declares an area "critical habitat" for an endangered species, then it doesn't matter if it is private property. Use is severely restricted. Regional planning boards have done the same thing. In the Lake Tahoe area, a lot of people bought lots with the idea they would built their retiremet homes their. Well, the regional planning board put a moratorium on new building to "protect the clarity of Lake Tahoe". These folks paid top dollar for property they now can't build on. The Supreme Court ruled that it's OK, because its a "moratorium", and use is not lost, theoritically forever. The may not know for another 20 years what they'll be "allowed" to do with their property, but in the meantime have to maintain it and pay taxes on it. I know people who ended up selling the property for vastly less than they paid for it. Just disgusting.
707 posted on 06/21/2002 8:09:49 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: lodwick
I just can't remember. I had actually wanted liver and onions [yep....I don't cook it, but I sure do like it].

Wound up eating at a place that cooks what they call an Idaho Omelet. And they smother it with country gravy...it is usually so goooood! Anyhow, Ray wanted that; and as I sipped on cup of fresh brewed coffee, it just seemed the right thing to order...so I did.

Once we got back to my house, we agreed that next year it will be at the pizza parlor!

708 posted on 06/21/2002 8:16:04 PM PDT by Rowdee
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This is a photo of my hubby, Jason, running in the Bay to Breakers, in the pouring down rain. He is in the upper center of the photo in the blue tshirt. Our friend, John, is to his right, our left, in the black tshirt. John is impressive. He is in his 60's, and in great shape.

709 posted on 06/21/2002 8:20:01 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: .38sw
I agree with you Cheri on the 'control' freak thing!! They couldn't care about the wildlife or the habitat of the critters, nor soil erosion.

I really feel bad for the wildlife that survived....they would have gone into breeding in a stressed state, tried to winter with insufficient fat reserves in terrain not generally their territory, the females trying to gestate, and then if they did give birth, to try to provide adequate milk nourishment to any offspring that survived in a weakened state at birth.

And to think of all the smaller little creatures that couldn't possibly have survived....when mature cattle couldn't run fast enough to get away, I'm sure little mice and other little ones didn't make it....so there's a weakening of the genetic pool.

A burned out old growth forest ain't worth much of nuthin' to nobody!

710 posted on 06/21/2002 8:21:09 PM PDT by Rowdee
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To: .38sw; gratefulwharffratt
Here is the last of the light on this long day, the summer solstice

I hope ratt didn't fall asleep in the sun today.


711 posted on 06/21/2002 8:24:24 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Rowdee
How like you to resort to name calling.

Catty ? Cunning ? I thought I'd been fairly direct but let me give it another shot. I don't like you. You are crude, rude and obnoxious. You have been described as something one has to scrape off their shoe with a stick. Try as I might I can't find fault with the accuracy of that statement. It even smells accurate.

Now, this has gone far enough on the thread. You're making a spectacle of yourself. I hope this closes the matter but if you still haven't gotten it, then give me a minute. I'll be happy to send you a freepmail spelling it out in two very short, concise words that might just penetrate a head as thick as yours.

712 posted on 06/21/2002 8:25:04 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: .38sw
He looks quite proud of himself. Nice looking guy.
713 posted on 06/21/2002 8:26:41 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: .38sw
How cool. Your husband is wearing 21808 ? He's handsome and so is your friend John.
714 posted on 06/21/2002 8:28:08 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: ValerieUSA
I love that one. There is just something about bridges in the falling light that is hauntingly appealing.
715 posted on 06/21/2002 8:28:11 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: .38sw
Congratulations Jason.
That's a cool picture with the intense colors on the dark wet pavement background. Everything stands out very clearly.
716 posted on 06/21/2002 8:33:05 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: .38sw
In furtherance of the conversation, when these types tell the world that 'humans are a cancer on the world and need to be cut out just like a cancer tumor', one has to know they're a danger to the free world.

Knowing they feel that way, and with college profs like Paul Erhlick, the butterfly expert, who thinks he's an expert "on global freezing warming too many people on earth", one has to realize they don't care about the human race and how many are dead.

BTW, were you aware that he is an 'expert' based on his being the recipient of some award(s) by some environmental organization(s)? Never mind the little factoil that no one has decreed these organization(s) are qualified as an authority on anyone or anything!

And add to that the concept of 'sustainable development, or farming, or grazing, or forestry, or industry, or anything else', and you have problems.....the obvious question being by whose definition? Theirs? Yours? Mine? Some pseudo-scientist?

717 posted on 06/21/2002 8:33:36 PM PDT by Rowdee
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To: .38sw
Congrats to both the boys.

Speaking of runs, do you remember anything about the annual run they used to hold in, I believe, Spokane...I know it was Washington. I had friends in Missoula, MT, that would drive over so they could participate.

Seems like the name of the run started with a B.....Bloombergs, Bloomingdales, Bloopers, well--something along those lines.

718 posted on 06/21/2002 8:37:44 PM PDT by Rowdee
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To: ValerieUSA
Nice Valerie. I swear I can almost hear someone singing Ode to Billy Joe in the background. LOL
719 posted on 06/21/2002 8:38:51 PM PDT by Darlin'
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To: ValerieUSA
Beautiful capturing of colors at dusk, Val.
720 posted on 06/21/2002 8:38:53 PM PDT by Rowdee
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