An Open letter to Jim Robinson: Can the Bush-Bashers

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[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

Dear Mr. Robinson,

I have been a loyal member of the Free Republic since before the 2000 election. I have been a Conservative since the early days of Clinton. When I found this site, I thought "Thank God, people who think like me." I have continued to think this until the more recent days. Now, it seems that there are threads left and right bashing our President.

Why? There are things the President has done which I don't agree with but my loyality still lies with him. I am not sure if these "Bush-Bashers" fail to see the reality that with politics comes comprimise or it is something worse. I feel there is a cancer in the Free Republic. Some are eating their own.

I feel that some of these people are members of the dreaded democratic underground disguised as disgruntled conservatives. They are only here to stir up trouble. What's worse, they are doing just that. I am not sure what I think you should do.

As a conservative, I believe in our moral code but I also realize the reality of politics. I back our President but if he were doing something unsavory (like lying under oath,) I could not support him. This is unlike the left's clintonista dogma. What President Bush is doing is not betraying the conservative cause. He is using politics to confound the left. Those who do not understand this are either leftists themself or unable to separate themselves from their zealousness.

This is your show. You choose who gets to be a member and who does not. Those who break your rules are banished from the kingdom. I am not discouraging free speech, but this is free speech in your forum. These Bush-Bashers are brining us down. When this infighting happened in 1992, Bill Clinton got elected. let's not let that happen again.

Yours,

Big Guy and Rusty 99

[Amelia]

I would like to ask you two serious questions, yes or no types

1)Has this country moved more towards the type of government originally outlined in the Constitution since Bush took office.

2)Has this country moved farther to the left, than when Bush took office.

I am not sure how to answer the question without appearing "weasely" but I think it depends on which issue you are addressing. On some issues (defense and abortion for instance) I think the country has moved further right, but on others (education and health care) I think it is still moving left.

And, as I stated earlier, I think the move to the right has to start at the local level, and I think as long as the American people are, on the whole, looking for a European-style nanny state, the country is going to continue to move leftward, regardless of the President.

[rdavis84]

"I've made it to # 604 so far."

You're doin' good.

I only made it to #27.

[BillyBoy]

>> How did you get Bobby Rush to be your local Congressman? Could it be that you voted to split the Conservative base by insisting on complete Conservative purity? <<

No, actually the Republican candidate was unopposed in the primary and the party (not to mention Republican voters) are completly united behind him. You see, the unfortunate problem of living in the suburbs means the city of Chicago can take a little town with a population of 20,000 and conviently "add" it to an scummy urban district a few miles away that is losing population.

The result is 30% of our district is composed of middle-class suburbs who generally vote middle of the road, and the remaining 70% of the district is neighborhoods on the south side of Chicago who vote LOCKSTEP Dem and do not care what we think. The district is rigged so we are outvoted and have NO voice in who "represents" us.

In fact, if ONLY the suburbs had voted, Bobby Rush would have lost EVERY single election from 1992 onwards. That fact is verified at the Illinois State Board of Elections. I've already stated that I am NOT once of those "candidates must agree with me on EVERY issue" freepers. In fact, I get flamed by them on a regular basis when I point out the idiots who voted for Perot solely because of the NAFTA issue. So please STOP making up these statements as you go along. Maybe you should have checked to see who Rush's opponents were before you started making up completely false charges. The facts are that the Republican candidate, Ray Wardingley , is certainly FAR for perfect but he is also MUCH better than Bush on things like border control and fighting for the rights of the unborn. Both conservatives AND moderates voted for him.

Don't blame me for the GOP failing to run good candidates in OTHER elections.

Interestingly enough, if the Illinois GOP had done their job and protected ALL their voters, my town would be in Bill Lipinski's district like most of the southwest suburbs of Chicago.

[thinden]

"Let us remain ever-loyal to a politician -- not to our ideals, and not to our principles."

webb hubbell circa 1993.

"Let us remain ever-loyal to a politician -- not to our ideals, and not to our principles."

suzie mcdougal circa 1995

"Let us remain ever-loyal to a politician -- not to our ideals, and not to our principles."

jim mcdougal (RIP)

"Let us remain ever-loyal to a politician -- not to our ideals, and not to our principles."

bruce lindsay circa 1992 - 2002

[rebelsoldier]

No, CFR does harm to the First Amendment and citizen's ability to participate fully in the political process to enact political change. If you can't grasp that basic fact, you and others who excuse the destruction of the Constitution are hopeless. This transcends partisan party loyalties because it cripples debate, dissent, dialogue, and the revelation of fact. It is no wonder that you and other Koolaid drinkers are willing to swallow that poison. If Clinton had done this, you'd be chewing iron and crapping rivets.

[rdavis84]

That only applies to the Dems.

What if he can WIN? And he's the lesser of two Evils?

aHA! Caught you in a trap!!!

[rebelsoldier]

Funny how its "name calling" when one criticizes a cherished figure and "righteous rage and indignation" when it is done about a liberal. Yeah, I'm a big liberal. Just examine my posts and its clear that I love socialist collectivism, communism, left-wingers, and Clinton. You loyal legion of lapdogs keep telling yourselves that and maybe it will make all the flip-flops, concessions, appeasements, and surrenders go down a little smoother. I'm still waiting to be put on the list of dissidents and undesirables to be expunged.

[mercy]

Amen. The Right is the position of intellectual honesty. The Left is one of pseudo-religious philosophy. The Right naturally supports debate and arguement. The Left demands blind obedience.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

I missed. can you post it here? Believe it or not, I actually have a sense of humor.

[Lazamataz]

I have been instructed not to repost the piece on Free Republic in any fashion. Several years of military training have taught me how to follow orders.

[mancini]

Actually, what I was intimating was the center that he does possess dwells in darkness.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

really? you were instructed? yikes.

[VRWC_minion]

You must of missed the word "pretender" in my post.

[rebelsoldier]

Generalizations are generally valuable because they are generally true. That's why they continue to be employed by people all the time. Furthermore, there is nothing irrational about generalizing, because that implies that an argument is groundless which isn't applicable to generalizations. When you suggest that posters might better be served by stratifying their posts according to literary ability and further by a highly subjective assessment of "quality" (determined by whom?), that's disturbing and telling. There is already moderation, deletion, and prohibition of some topics, treatments, and comments. What more do you want, a meticulous, micromanaged monitoring of all opinion of just that which disagrees strongly with yours?

[VRWC_minion]

Caving on CFR, the pork-laden farm bill, and the education boondoggle (or even keeping the federal Dept. of Ed. at all!) are very worthy of questioning and criticism

I am at a disadvantage over most Bush basehrs. I agree with his handling of CFR, I think its brilliant. I disagree with the farm bill but don't think he had a political option. The education thing stinks unless he manages to get testing in before he leaves office. Unlike CFR, its a gamble I don't think he will pull off over the next 6 years.

[rebelsoldier]

Yep, you got me right. I am a brute, a savage, and a barbarian, and don't even use coasters or fold my napkins. But would a "lady" call a perfect stranger an "idiot"? Hmmm....seems we all have a little beast within. The reason I use other forums is because I like the debate, the deconstruction of stupid liberal ideas, and yes, the battle. God help me I love it so. Of course there I have met many real women with backbone and character, though possibly lacking in etiquette or table manners which we all know is what's really important in perserving a free republic. I think you just have a psychosexual romantic fixation with me. It's something good looking, rakish rebels have to learn to get used to. What's scary is that there are legions of liberal Clintonite women just as blindly loyal to him as you appear to be to Bush, regardless of the betrayals or insults. Drink up.

[mrustow]

Thanks, you just saved me the effort of writing the turd a reply...:-)

The pleasure was all mine.

[Kermit]

90% of the so-called "Bush-bashing" is pointing out, how Bush says one thing and does another. The other 10% is pointing out the inaction by Bush on things he ought to be doing.

*Sigh* I can't believe you have it broken down into percentages.

I may be wrong, but I'm never uncertain.;^)

[Republic]

Oh fiddle dee dee! You take yourself and your hatred of President way too seriously in my book! LOL. Lighten up! You cannot expect a good man, even a GREAT man like President Bush is turning out to be to clean of the klinton kompouded filth in a matter of months!

Changing the tone was and IS far more important than revenge, anyway. Drawing a nation together sometimes leaves those of us who wanted to see the klintons drown in the betrayal and filthy they brought upon our nation unfullfilled-you especially-I guess, from the tone of your post above. Whatever.

Why don't you grow up and see the the cloth that is smothering your own eyes before you go stomping off in a tantrum over those of us who not only admire but are THRILLED with the Presidency as it is shaping up under President Bush's leadership. It ain't perfect sweetie-but the rhythm and method and goals are beyond brilliant...relax a bit and enjoy the show.