Freeoples Thread 307

[Mo1]

Freeoples ....

Thread 307

[gratefulwharffratt]

Gun ownership is specifically protected by the Constitution because it is the citizens' duty to protect himself from government tyranny and his country from foreign invasion and his property and family from criminal violations, and that duty is most effectively performed when armed. I don't see how drugs can compare Constitutionally.

If you are going to drag that pesky old living document, the Constitution, into all of this, then please point me to the place in it that enumerates which drugs we are to be prohibited from having access to.

You are right, I DON'T see how drugs can compare, Constitutionally, since they are NOT mentioned.

[Mo1]

HAVE EVER DIED FROM MARIJUANA (no one ever has),

OK you are correct no one has died smoking marijuana but the have died after getting in a car while stoned

[Mo1]

WEW .. FINALLY off the phone ... someone was at the door and she said she'd call back .. if I'm lucky she'll forget .. lol

Ahhhh I see there is ANOTHER car chase in CA .. boy these folks in CA can't drive

[Mo1]

WEW .. FINALLY off the phone ... someone was at the door and she said she'd call back .. if I'm lucky she'll forget .. lol

Ahhhh I see there is ANOTHER car chase in CA .. boy these folks in CA can't drive

[gratefulwharffratt]

Once again, I must remind you that the Constitution does protect freedom to worship, just as it protects gun ownership, and the reasoning behind that protection has nothing to do with drugs.

But the Constitution also has a fourth amendment... which is spit upon daily. The second amendment is holding on by a thread, and the first amendment is tossed aside come November... (unless invalidated by SCOTUS) Don't even get me started about the Interstate Commerce Clause or the tenth amendment.

Yes Val, where your friends the Neo-Collectivists are concerned, we can rest assured that the Constitution will restrain them. Thanks for reassuring me, while you work to subvert the very document itself.

We'll send for you, when we decide that wearing a Christian cross is a hate crime, because of the violence incited by the barbaric Old Testament. Removing you, (for your own good, mind you) will make our Utopia Great Society more diverse, and a safer place for the victim classes.

[lodwick]

What's the solution?
For me it was going to church every time the doors were open, with my family; and having had super grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins with the same values.

Then I graduated HS, came to the University, and the rest is history. ;-)

[ValerieUSA]

I don't know why traffic violations in LA have to be national news. This is so stupid.

[lodwick]

Thanks for the bumpersticker laughs - I needed that.

[Mo1]

Stupid yes .. must be a slow news day

[gratefulwharffratt]

OK you are correct no one has died smoking marijuana but the have died after getting in a car while stoned

OK you are correct no one has died smoking marijuana but they have died after getting in a car while stoned. drunk happy mad horney driving in the rain being late needing an excuse to increase federal regulations of our lives driving.

[Mo1]

So is Ratty trying to legalize drugs again???

[ValerieUSA]

Oops, sorry to leave you - I had to take a shower.
Let's take your whole argument and put it on public education instead of drugs..... or is there a reason why it wouldn't apply?

[ValerieUSA]

Removing you, (for your own good, mind you) will make our Utopia Great Society more diverse, and a safer place for the victim classes.

The victim classes will GROW leaps and bounds by 2004 if drugs were suddenly legalized tomorrow.

[Mo1]

OK .. for the sake of argument ... marijuana in itself is not a big deal .. but it does let to other much harder drugs

Think I am wrong .. take a look back on your own life .. you often tell stories of the old days

[ValerieUSA]

All speeding laws ought to be abolished, too.... (that's one I violate on a regular basis) ....because I trust myself to drive very fast safely, I ought to expect everyone else on the road to do so, too, because we are all individuals - whether drunk or stoned or young or suicidal - it's our choice whether we drive at 30 mph or 65 through neighborhoods. TRUST ME.

[gratefulwharffratt]

Let's take your whole argument and put it on public education instead of drugs..... or is there a reason why it wouldn't apply?

Exactly. The Education department is not mandated in the Constitution, yet home schoolers are in danger of losing their kids because neo-collectivists are 'doing it for the children' even though parents may feel that the neo-collectivist schools only indoctrinate you students, and is against their wishes.

Collectivist thought at it's best... Use something not even mandated by the document, to prevent parents from exercising rights outlined in it.

And you are using it to defend collectivist ideals?? Please.

[gratefulwharffratt]

The victim classes will GROW leaps and bounds by 2004 if drugs were suddenly legalized tomorrow.

Source?? I guess your great-great-great grandma was just knee deep in victims running loose everywhere, huh??

[gratefulwharffratt]

Think I am wrong .. take a look back on your own life .. you often tell stories of the old days

I have NEVER tried anything without finding out what it's effects are, first.

I never smoked ANY weed, until after I graduated from High School, despite having many opportunities. And to this day, I have never smoked a cigarette, despite LIVING on a tobacco farm. (or snuff dipping, or chewing, or mainline injecting, or however else tobacco is used.)

Next fallacious question please.

[lodwick]

I have a blonde sister to exlain why

Mo, this is exactly the point - your sister found a way to get whatever she wanted, and it was all illegal when she did it.

Morality cannot be legislated by any government - it must be taught to children by a loving mother and a loving father, who got it from their parents.

[gratefulwharffratt]

whether drunk or stoned or young or suicidal - it's our choice whether we drive at 30 mph or 65 through neighborhoods. TRUST ME.

I do, or else I would never venture onto the road. We all have an expectation that others will abide by administrative law.

Our WHOLE society is based on trusting the Individual to make his or her own decisions in life, EXCEPT where you neo-collectivist prohibitionists are hard at work.

What's your point??