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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Poetry; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
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To: Corin Stormhands
see
6,901 posted on 05/30/2002 7:24:47 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: DonnerT
Well fought.
6,902 posted on 05/30/2002 7:25:35 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: 2Jedismom
No! Not Italian! BBQ a cabrito!

She'd probably like that, but she prefers not to have to cook on her birthday. ;-)

By the we, I had the Tortellini ala Cabonara, and she had Chicken Alfredo. Both very good, and unfortunately neither of us had room left for dessert!

6,903 posted on 05/30/2002 7:25:40 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: JenB
please tell me some of you people have read the Ender books?

I know of them, but haven't read them. Most of the SF I read is pre-1980. ;-)

6,904 posted on 05/30/2002 7:27:42 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Corin Stormhands
Overtaxed should post some pictures of the precious...
6,905 posted on 05/30/2002 7:28:38 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
Overtaxed should post some pictures of the precious...

Now that would be funny.

Completely irreverant, but funny.

6,906 posted on 05/30/2002 7:30:15 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
any questions or guesses about woman's age

Remember, there aren't many dwarf women around. Now we may know why.

6,907 posted on 05/30/2002 7:30:30 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Corin Stormhands
Thanks. But I think you let me have it.

Now I can sneak past Dwarves unseen!
The Precioussss iss mine!

Handy bauble to have.

6,908 posted on 05/30/2002 7:31:35 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: Overtaxed
We're all coming over to your house! When will the stuff come off the grill?

Oh wow, now we're going to have to clean house... and buy a grill, I guess.

6,909 posted on 05/30/2002 7:31:38 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear;Overtaxed;Penny1;Sam Cree;2Jedismom;JenB
Did you notice how JenB referred to us as "you people" up there in the thinly veiled insult up there about those books she thought we should all know about?

please tell me some of you people have read the Ender books?

6,910 posted on 05/30/2002 7:32:19 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: DonnerT
I would never willingly let the precious go...
6,911 posted on 05/30/2002 7:32:46 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: SuziQ
My daughter and I just got back from the cheap seats theater seeing FoTR for the 5th time

I'm trying to convince my missus to go and see it for our 3rd viewing, so that we can see the TTT teaser (TTTT?) Still playing in 2 non-discount theaters here in Austin.

6,912 posted on 05/30/2002 7:33:58 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: DonnerT
Should I join the other sneaks and try for it?

It came and went before I even realized it was there. Darn dial-up connection.....

6,913 posted on 05/30/2002 7:36:02 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I'm hoping it hits the cheap theater here. Ours is one of those old theaters with the pipe organ. The guy still plays it on Saturday nights. It rises out of the orchestra pit.

In it's heyday, the organist was a man named Eddie Weaver.

From what I'm told the "in" thing to do was to go to the Byrd Theater and watch Eddie Weaver's organ rise...

Bad dwarf. Very bad dwarf...

6,914 posted on 05/30/2002 7:37:11 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
I checked out the you thread you mentioned re the Levys. I'm afraid to speak my thoughts about it, because I'm sure I'll offend someone...

Is this whole FR site slowing way down or is it just my computer?

6,915 posted on 05/30/2002 7:38:41 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Is this whole FR site slowing way down or is it just my computer?

No, it's crawling here. I've got cable, but I've been having trouble all week...

6,916 posted on 05/30/2002 7:40:04 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
This Hobbit won't carry it very long.
6,917 posted on 05/30/2002 7:40:40 PM PDT by DonnerT
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To: DonnerT
This dwarf will gladly take it off your hands...
6,918 posted on 05/30/2002 7:43:20 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
From what I'm told the "in" thing to do ...

(snicker) Did he have roses on it, or did he have ...

No, I won't say it...

6,919 posted on 05/30/2002 7:47:24 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sorry, did not mean to insult. I am quite tired and not thinking straight.

Anyway, the Ender books are by Orson Scott Card. The ones I like best are Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, and Speaker for the Dead (incidentally that's the order I would recommend reading them in.)

They happen to be some of the best sci-fi written lately, and Game and the Shadow series are absolutely brilliant and true. Speaker for the Dead is a little different from the others but good, in a way.... if you can stand books about brilliant children, and science fiction to boot, they're a great series. Also, since we're talking religion, Card is a Mormon but his books are some of the most, well, Christian, out there.

6,920 posted on 05/30/2002 7:47:38 PM PDT by JenB
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