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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Sam Cree
Good night Sam!
33,661 posted on 10/12/2002 9:31:08 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree
Night Sam, I'm gonna sign off, too! Sir SuziQ has to leave for his bidness trip in 3 hours and I have to set my alarm as a back up! After he leaves, I'm gonna be sleeping late, so I'll catch up on my zzzzz's. Night all!
33,662 posted on 10/12/2002 9:32:15 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog; SuziQ
Night everyone! I'm going too...I'm slap exhausted.
33,663 posted on 10/12/2002 9:37:12 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sounds like a plan to me! Especially the shuttle launch! ;)

I want to go to Disney World and the space center too. I'd also love to take a little trip to the Florida Keys...

Snorkeling, anyone? ;)
33,664 posted on 10/12/2002 10:53:53 PM PDT by Penny1
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To: Sam Cree
Hi Sam! :)
33,665 posted on 10/12/2002 10:54:47 PM PDT by Penny1
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To: Penny1; Sam Cree
LOL, I really should read the entire thread before posting!

Good night, Sam...
33,666 posted on 10/12/2002 10:58:28 PM PDT by Penny1
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To: Sam Cree
OT can probably sing some squirrel hunting songs,

I can always do "Take Me Out to the Squirrel Shoot"

33,667 posted on 10/13/2002 5:11:20 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Did you see the cat thread? - Guy's cat attacked his daughter and did some damage... I think he just wants to shoot it. Don't let her majesty see....

Need Advice About Cats (Help)

33,668 posted on 10/13/2002 6:09:18 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well that's really weird! They didn't give very many details other than it was an indoor cat. How long have they had the cat? How old is it? Where did it come from? My sister has two cats; one that has lived with humans since kittenhood and another that's an adopted stray (although he's so friendly that he must have had contact with peoople at some point). The adopted stray has very strong feelings about staying in or out at night (in when it's cold, out otherwise) and won't curl up with anyone.

Her Majesty is the most sweet-tempered cat. She gets the crazies once in a while (at new moons and full moons) but I've never seen her freak out. I get more scratches playing with her than trying to give her pills!

33,669 posted on 10/13/2002 6:24:01 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Well, I have been scratched, certainly, trying to make a cat do something he didn't want to do.... Or trying to hang on to a cat that is completely wigged out. I think that is what I think happened here. The cat was wigging out, and the daughter tryed to hold it.

I think Dad (? I think poster is a man) is responding pretty emotionally, and you're right... there are a lot of details that would help.

I asked a lot of those questions, but he hasn't come back in awhile since my last set of questions. I hope he doesn't shoot it. It might be a normal cat in an extraordinary circumstance, or it could be insane. My brothers cat is insane. Less so now then when she was younger, but I still can't pick her up. She freaks. But regardless, if he decides it is too insane to keep, I hope he handles it humanely.
33,670 posted on 10/13/2002 6:38:02 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
My cat usually runs and hides or squirms or something when I try to give her pills or "goop" her.

Maybe all the guy needs to do is keep it out of the bedroom at night. I suppose it could "go off" during the day, but from what he says, this looks to be the first time it's happened.

33,671 posted on 10/13/2002 6:42:39 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
I usually catch the cat off guard with the goop! All I get is the scowl afterwords...
33,672 posted on 10/13/2002 6:48:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm still trying to catch the cat taking a little snooze in the top-loading position.
33,673 posted on 10/13/2002 6:50:18 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
I've never heard of a cat doing such a thing, unprovoked. I would (at least) banish from the household any animal that seriously harmed a child of mine. I know lots of cats are kind of weird, while others are affectionate and fun to be with.
33,674 posted on 10/13/2002 6:56:25 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Well, it was provoked, in that there was a cat fight outside bad enough to wake up the daughter and the cat.

I just responded to him again over there.... I think the panic is over, I don't think he is gonna shoot it anyway.
33,675 posted on 10/13/2002 7:20:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree; Overtaxed
Oh - Hullo! - Good Morning!
33,676 posted on 10/13/2002 7:39:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Sam Cree
Okay, it's Sunday morning. So far I haven't seen anything about a slightly pudgy housewife beating up a psychoanalyst at a Tulsa sunday school in Breaking News. :)
33,677 posted on 10/13/2002 7:46:39 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
That is a good sign indeed.... ;~D

Perhaps we will soon hear that war has been averted in the Sunday School class.
33,678 posted on 10/13/2002 7:53:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
I meant unprovoked by the victim. Anyway, the cat's reaction seems extreme to me, I doubt I'd want it around anymore.

Morning, you all. Going to the grocery store in a minute.
33,679 posted on 10/13/2002 7:59:20 AM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: maquiladora; Bear_in_RoseBear; ksen; Sam Cree; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; Penny1; g'nad; ...
Pinging some from my spoiler list and as many folk as I can think of!

Reported this morning at TORN (check out the link to the Sept 12 Article too if you missed it):

FOTR:SE DVD Review!!!
Xoanon @ 3:36 am EST

Screening of The Fellowship of the Ring : Special Edition

I’ve recently returned from the marathon screening of FOTR:SE at New Line`s intimate screening room in West Hollywood, California.

The screening was attended by a few website folks and DVD aficionados. Keith Stern from McKellen.com was in attendance as well, Gordon Paddison and Wendy Rutherford also attended.

We started out early Saturday morning with breakfast and a little small talk. The 15 or so people who were there were abuzz with excitement of seeing the extended version of FOTR. What will we see? What was added? Removed? Changed? It wasn’t too long that we were all sitting in the 50 person screening room listening to opening introductions by Gordon Paddison, Michael Mulvihill and Jay Sherbon of Laserpacific.

They outlined what we were to see, the extended edition of the film, and all the special features. You can tell there is a general air of satisfaction with the product when they talk about it, you know they KNOW it’s a great DVD, and they want others to feel the same way.

The laserpacific folks gave us a bit of their background with New Line; they told us their experiences working with New Line since Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery and all the craziness that LOTR has been for them.

They then proceeded to screen the film for us on a small silver screen. They were showing the actual DVD, with all its menus and interactive titles. It is truly some of the most beautiful DVD menu screens I’ve ever seen.

If you want to know exactly what is on the extended edition of FOTR, refer to my report from September 12th. That report is basically 100% accurate to what we saw today (down to Gimli snoring), if that’s all you came for, then you can leave right now.

What I was interested in was the behind-the-scenes stuff that only nerd boys like us lust after. Let me tell you first and foremost this DVD is PACKED full of information on the film. Basically going from Tolkien’s first writings of ‘The Book of Lost Tales’ in World War I to the New Zealand premiere for FOTR just this past December. You can truly feel like YOU’VE been through every step of making this film after watching these specials.

Disk 3 starts off, as I stated, with a brief documentary on Tolkien, with a brief bio and information on how ‘The Hobbit’ and LOTR started in the written form. With interviews from Tolkien biographers and authors from a whole range of Tolkien books, this documentary doesn’t get into the finer details of the man, but is an interesting look at the one who started it all.

The following documentaries follow the evolution of ‘Fellowship’ from it’s initial stages with Miramax, PJ’s first meeting with Michael Shaye at New Line, and his pre-pre-PRE production work with people like Richard Taylor and Andrew Lesnie.

Disk 3 really gets into the nitty gritty of just what was needed to be prepared before any cameras started rolling. They tell the full story of finding John Howe and Alan Lee, getting the locations scouted out and developing costumes, cultures, weapons and more for such a massive undertaking. We are taken through every small detail of the work, from armour to clothes to locations and set design.

One of my favourite scenes in this section involved Grant Major talking to the camera on the way to the Hobbiton set with Peter Jackson in the car ahead of him, Grant tells us that he is a bit nervous because this is the first time PJ will be seeing the ‘almost’ finished product. What we see next is Grant and Peter looking over the rolling hills, with Grant saying ‘here it is’…..and this long…painful silence from Peter…as he mulls it over and says ‘right…well..needs some work right?’ It’s funny in many ways but also goes to show how much detail Peter wanted in every aspect of the production, can you just imagine spending an afternoon making sure there are enough plants around Hobbit hole fences to look realistic This is attention to detail at its finest!

To be honest the 3rd disk had so much attention to detail that my head started swimming. I certainly do not recommend you watch all of these documentaries in one sitting. At one point I really couldn’t care less that it Uruk-Hai armour was made of leather and if I saw Richard Taylor pick up another piece and explain it I’d lose it!!!!

Thankfully at this point we had a break and I got some food in me....

We then moved on to disk 4, which, for me was my favourite part of the entire DVD set. The documentaries continue their timeline to the start of production and casting. We don’t get any sort of garbage like ‘Elijah Wood plays Frodo...’, We KNOW he does! Get on with it! Thankfully they don’t pander to that audience... what we do get is truly candid little insights into each actor from all the OTHER actors’ point of view... truly amazing stuff. If I hadn’t been working on this film for two years and already feel a part of this family, I would certainly have after seeing these little segments. We get to hear Dominic Monaghan tell us of the first time they met John Rhys-Davies when he took them out to dinner and ordered a meal for an army, we get to hear how Billy Boyd screams like a girl, and how Ian McKellen yelled at Dom and Elijah when they played their music too loud during make-up calls, and how Sean Bean was so deathly afraid of helicopters that he spent two hours WALKING to locations that the rest of the crew flew too! Really great stuff.

The disk then moves onto digital effects, we see an amazing display on all the excruciating details that go into some of the smallest shots, and how some shots that seem totally natural were in fact worked on for weeks and weeks. There is a very interesting doco on the different types of tricks used to scale the Hobbits down to size, from digital trickery at its latest to having to Hobbit boys on their knees at times. A great documentary called ‘A day in the life of a Hobbit’ details all the trials and tribulations these little Hobbit boys went through for the entire production.

The sound department also have their say on this DVD as well. They go into detail on almost all the different sounds used and abused for the making of the film. They show some of the tricks used (you will NEVER guess what the sound of the screaming Nazgul is!).

Ngila Dickson gets her own segment when talking about costumes, we see an entire WAREHOUSE full of costumes for the film. She explains that for every major actor they get 10 costumes. So, for example, we take Pippin, that would mean 10 pippin costumes right? Not so sir, you have to factor in his small double (mini-me costumes they were called), his stunt double, and his mini-me stunt double! Imagine the massive amount of costumes for just that 1 character alone!

Howard Shore also has a segment all about his music and what is involved in making such a mammoth masterpiece for Peter Jackson. They go into so much detail on every song, every bit of score, and everyone involved in it, from Enya to the London choir boys. This doco will certainly leave music fans with a huge smile on their faces.

The documentaries round off with a segment called ‘The Road Goes Ever On...’ with video clips from the various premieres in London, Los Angeles and Wellington. A really great send-off for this DVD. They flashback to a few shots we see earlier in the film, and you can’t help but now feel part of the people involved on the journey with them after seeing these documentaries. This is truly a gift for fans of this movie, and movie making in general.

Almost 12 hours later I walked out with a handful of others (a lot of people left...but not TORN!). I was amazed at the fact that there were still MORE things we hadn’t seen on this DVD! There were over 2000 concept art sketches, an interactive map of Middle-earth and New Zealand. And FOUR full tracks of commentaries from producers, directors, artists and actors from the film.

Those who vow not to get ‘milked’ into buying this edition of the DVD will cave in as fast as Legolas can sling arrows and shoot them, my friends…this is DVD making at its finest.

If you have any specific questions, I can TRY and answer some of them for you. Drop me a line! xoanon@theonering.net


33,680 posted on 10/13/2002 8:54:16 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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