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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: JenB
Oh, thanks.
33,601 posted on 10/12/2002 7:22:10 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: JenB
It is only terrifying because you are not of age!

Things change with a few pints. I like it once in awhile!

The thing I can't stand are the people who get up and sing the Big Sappy Ballad. People do not go to Karaoke to hear bad amateurs sing "And I Will Always Love You".... They go to Karaoke to hear "Jeremiah was a Bull-frog! was a good friend of mine"
33,602 posted on 10/12/2002 7:26:50 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
It's still scary. I do not ever want to consume enough alcohol that karaoke is not scary.
33,603 posted on 10/12/2002 7:28:16 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
I can't believe you did that! What has come over you?

[crinkling brow and crossing arms in disapproving fashion]
33,604 posted on 10/12/2002 7:28:27 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
OK - We will not do Karaoke at Entmoot.
33,605 posted on 10/12/2002 7:30:05 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Temporary insanity brought on by... a lousy Saturday?

I'm blaming it all on the Dwarves.

33,606 posted on 10/12/2002 7:34:04 PM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
"We will not do Karaoke at Entmoot.

One never knows, though, looking in the mirror shows many things...

33,607 posted on 10/12/2002 7:34:37 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
Think we can talk Jen into singing "And I will always love you"?
33,608 posted on 10/12/2002 7:43:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Helps me to have a pint before Karaoke

LOL!! I'd need a couple of pints before I could do that. I sing in our Parish's Festival Choir, at Christmas, Easter, other special occasions. Our director has asked me to Cantor at Mass, but I just don't think I could do it! I would get very nervous and my voice would tremble too much. I know, I'm a weenie, but I like singing from the pews on Sunday. If I sing loud and strong, some other folks who are nervous might just sing along! I always say, God gave you your voice, so give it back to Him! I just do it in the safety of the crowd!

33,609 posted on 10/12/2002 7:48:51 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog
I'm pretty sure she can do it better than Whitney Houston. I'm kind of shy too, though. But neither my wife, my daughter, or my son are.

OTOH, we're all kind of tone deaf.

Probably some of us know "Cripple Creek" as well.

I went out for a jog this morning, need to start getting in shape, since we'll all be meeting in a year! I'm not in too terrible shape, though.
33,610 posted on 10/12/2002 7:49:30 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
need to start getting in shape, since we'll all be meeting in a year!

Dang! - Who said that was a requirement?! - I am flying there, not walking!

33,611 posted on 10/12/2002 7:52:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree
the foothills of the Blue Ridge.... Thinking about going home, I guess.

Well there aren't many prettier places than that!

We've been thinking about moving back South. One of our very best friends, also from MS, (actually he's the one who introduced us) recently moved to Birmingham after having lived in Northern NJ for 10 yrs, then San Fran. for another 5. He is loving living back down there; he says he didn't realize how much he'd missed it til he got back.

We have the two younger kids still home, and even though they aren't in school, they still have good friends, so it would be hard to move them right now. But hey, if the uniformly most wonderful job offer comes along, we might go anyway!

33,612 posted on 10/12/2002 7:54:07 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Oh you could do it! It is sortof like singing from the pews...
33,613 posted on 10/12/2002 7:54:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
OK - We will not do Karaoke at Entmoot.

Oh shoot!! I was thinking THAT would be GREAT fun!

33,614 posted on 10/12/2002 7:57:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog
Told my wife that yesterday that we're going to an "Entmoot" next year. She gave me a funny look...but this is really the kind of event she loves. She has a quirky sense of humor.

I'm looking forward to it alot.

Maybe I'll try now to download the hi res trailer.
33,615 posted on 10/12/2002 7:58:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree
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To: HairOfTheDog
I could do karaoke because it is all in fun, not like having to be reverent in front of the congregation. With karaoke, the crowd is usually three sheets to the wind like the one performing, so they don't care anyway!
33,616 posted on 10/12/2002 8:00:35 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Jen didn't like the idea! What can we do?
33,617 posted on 10/12/2002 8:01:35 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: SuziQ
Exactly! And your friends love you anyway, and the others, you will never see again. Maybe they will have it in the Hotel Bar.... I am bothered that Sam hadn't heard of it. It is really popular up here, but maybe not in Florida?
33,618 posted on 10/12/2002 8:03:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree
Well yes Sam! - You need to have that Hi res trailer! It will knock your socks off!
33,619 posted on 10/12/2002 8:04:51 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Jen didn't like the idea! What can we do?

Get her some ear plugs?

33,620 posted on 10/12/2002 8:07:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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