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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog
Good morning everyone!
3,301 posted on 04/25/2002 6:17:04 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: HairOfTheDog
I don't know if being a Sackville is much better than being a troll though. It sure thinks your name is unfriendly!

I thought that too, but aren't the Sackville Bagginses just FROM Sackville? I thought their last name was Baggins and they were from the village of Sackville?

If not, then I am from the renegade branch of the Sackville family that is actually quite nice. ;^)

-Kevin

3,302 posted on 04/25/2002 6:18:01 AM PDT by ksen
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To: 2Jedismom
Good morning! - Trying to get off my duff and go feed the ponies... Need to get showered and get moving! just a few more minutes
3,303 posted on 04/25/2002 6:19:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hate it when OT gets the double ought with a silly cheating double post!

LOL!

Oh, and one other note about my Sackville name, I just can't picture anyone named Samwise who would be anything other than pleasant. ;^)

-Kevin

3,304 posted on 04/25/2002 6:20:16 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
I don't know the origins of the Sackville-Baggins name, but they sure have faces that would curdle new milk!


3,305 posted on 04/25/2002 6:23:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
You're right about Samwise, it is a name for only the very nicest of hobbits!
3,306 posted on 04/25/2002 6:25:07 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
Funny...I've never come up as an Elf. Hmm....I wonder why?
3,307 posted on 04/25/2002 6:26:54 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ksen;HairOfTheDog
Hate it when OT gets the double ought with a silly cheating double post!

But we wants it, Precious.

3,308 posted on 04/25/2002 6:32:57 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog;htur_75;JenB;Overtaxed;Penny1;All
One new thing I picked up from my reading last night - in the film, Bilbo mentions a "blockheaded Bracegirdle from Harbottle". In The Grey Havens, we find out that this is Lobelia's family!

Then there was Lobelia. Poor thing, she looked very old and thin when they rescued her from a dark and narrow cell. She insisted on hobbling out on her own feet; and she had such a welcome, and there was such clapping and cheering when she appeared, leaning on Frodo’s arm but still clutching her umbrella, that she was quite touched, and drove away in tears. She had never in her life been popular before. But she was crushed by the news of Lotho’s murder, and she would not return to Bag End. She gave it back to Frodo, and went to her own people, the Bracegirdles of Hardbottle.

Man, I love how PJ tucked all these tidbits into the movie!

3,309 posted on 04/25/2002 6:34:26 AM PDT by ecurbh
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To: ksen
You're a Miruvor-drinking Elf ? That doesn't sound very good! Wonder if Elves get drunk... I doubt it.
3,310 posted on 04/25/2002 6:43:14 AM PDT by JenB
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To: ecurbh
That is good! - thanks, what a good find! - OK - the ponies are fed, now if this eagle would just get up so I could see if there are any babies, I could go take a shower. Uh oh - now the morning sun is wreaking havoc on the camera. dang.
3,311 posted on 04/25/2002 6:45:07 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
I know! I caught that in my last read-through! I loved PJ for it too!
3,312 posted on 04/25/2002 6:46:04 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: JenB
Wonder if Elves get drunk

Wonder if Elves like Buffalo Wings.

3,313 posted on 04/25/2002 6:54:04 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: 2Jedismom
2JM, are you okay with the chat/viewing thing on Friday night?
3,314 posted on 04/25/2002 6:55:01 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Elves wouldn't kill buffalo just for those tiny wings!
3,315 posted on 04/25/2002 6:57:02 AM PDT by JenB
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To: ecurbh
I found another moved quote when I was browsing around... Gandalf and Pippin are riding to Gondor after the incident with the Palantir...

Now after Gandalf had ridden for some time the light of day grew in the sky, and Pippin roused himself and looked up...

Even as Pippin gazed in wonder the walls passed from looming grey to white, blushing faintly in the dawn; and suddenly the sun climbed over the eastern shadow and sent forth a shaft that smote the face of the City. Then Pippin cried aloud, for the Tower of Ecthelion, standing high within the topmost walls’ shone out against the sky, glimmering like a spike of pearl and silver, tall and fair and shapely, and its pinnacle glittered as if it were wrought of crystals; and white banners broke and fluttered from the battlements in the morning breeze’ and high and far he heard a clear ringing as of silver trumpets.

Paragraph two above is pretty-near the same lines that Boromir speaks when he is talking with Aragorn in Lothlorien. It at least looks like the inspiration for that sequence.

3,316 posted on 04/25/2002 6:57:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
You're a Miruvor-drinking Elf ? That doesn't sound very good! Wonder if Elves get drunk... I doubt it.

Well, as everyone knows, the BEST Miruvor has had ample time to ferment and by the time it is REALLY worth drinking is about two or three thousand years after bottling. By that time the alcohol created by the fermenting process has had time to breakdown which results in quite a refreshing beverage. My favorite flavor is Lip-Smacking Lime™.

Why we even let our youngsters have some before they reach the age of majority which is 1,500, although the elves in Lothlorien want to up the age to 2,100 and are threatening to withhold their Forest Renewal Matching Funds if us Mirkwood elves don’t get with the program. You wouldn’t know it to look at him, but Celeborn has quite the Louis XIV complex going on, wanting to centralize as much authority in Lothlorien as possible.

Anyways, I digress. To answer your question, no, we don’t get drunk. ;^)

-Kevin

3,317 posted on 04/25/2002 6:59:09 AM PDT by ksen
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To: JenB
Buffalo jerky, buffalo steak, buffalo Wellington, buffalo stew, fried buffalo, buffalo dogs....buffalo fricasee....
3,318 posted on 04/25/2002 6:59:50 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ecurbh
Here is the quote from the film:

Boromir:
I will find no rest here. I heard her voice inside my head. She spoke of my father and the fall of Gondor. She said to me, even now there is hope left. But I cannot see it. It is long since we had any hope. My father is a noble man, but his rule is failing. And then our... our people lose faith. He looks to me to make things right, and I, I would do it. I would see the glory of Gondor restored. Have you ever seen it, Aragorn? The white tower of Ecthelion. Glimmering like a spike of pearl and silver. Its banners caught high in the morning breeze. Have you ever been called home by the clear ringing of silver trumpets?

3,319 posted on 04/25/2002 7:01:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
That was one of the most "Yeah, that's Tolkien" speeches in the movie. Oddly, it seems to me that Boromir, of all people, gets the most 'authentic' dialogue. Sure, it's sort of cut and pasted - like parts of the dialogue in the "Ring on the mountainside" scene come from the temptation scene at the end of the book, but it's really right. Off the top of my head, the only really "Er, that's not entirely right" line I remember Boromir having is the "We make for the Gap of Rohan... Get out! Get out!" line.

Gandalf gets a lot of very authentic lines, and Saruman - well, he sounds right. Everyone else has sort of a mixture of book-lines and movie inventions.

3,320 posted on 04/25/2002 7:05:14 AM PDT by JenB
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