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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


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To: Overtaxed
I don’t think I like that site:

According to the Red Book of Westmarch, In Middle-earth, you are a - Friendless Hill-troll ;^(

Elven Name Possibilities: Galensulë or Galensulëion

Hobbit lad name - Milo Greenhand from Archet

Dwarven Name - Derin Stormhand (related to Corin maybe?)

Orkish Name - Maukrísh the One-eyed

Well, other than being a friendless Hill-Troll it was alright. ;^)

-Kevin

3,281 posted on 04/25/2002 5:32:41 AM PDT by ksen
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Good Morning Hobbitses! - Just a brief visit this morning before I have to commute up to Seattle... sipping my coffee and having some toast while I wake up. [sip]
3,282 posted on 04/25/2002 5:36:45 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
hehehe Good Morning lonely friendless troll!
3,283 posted on 04/25/2002 5:42:42 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well, for starters, one of us needs to sew.

Don't forget that you'll need a blacksmith to make a sword for that mysterious man (elf?) of your dreams. ;^)

-Kevin

3,284 posted on 04/25/2002 5:43:15 AM PDT by ksen
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To: HairOfTheDog
hehehe Good Morning lonely friendless troll!

Harumph! I don't even LIKE Hobbit jelly.

Good morning to you too. ;^)

-Kevin

3,285 posted on 04/25/2002 5:45:50 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
Yeah - there's a lot of the details still to be worked out in this little plan. Would love to have an elven smith, but that will sure drive the price up for the swords.
3,286 posted on 04/25/2002 5:45:51 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen
Good Morning!

You have to play around with it to get something you like. When I followed directions (how many times does that happen?) I got "Talkative Istari". Had to jiggle it a bit to come up a Took. I've come up an Istari 3 times, and Ent once, and a Harfoot once. (what's a harfoot?).

3,287 posted on 04/25/2002 5:46:48 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Good morning! You are some kind of hobbit.

Before the crossing of the mountains the Hobbits had already become divided into three somewhat different breeds: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides. The Harfoots were browner of skin, smaller, and shorter, and they were beardless and bootless; their hands and feet were neat and nimble; and they preferred highlands and hillsides. The Stoors were broader, heavier in build; their feet and hands were larger, and they preferred flat lands and riversides. The Fallohides were fairer of skin and also of hair, and they were taller and slimmer than the others; they were lovers of trees and of woodlands.

3,288 posted on 04/25/2002 5:52:00 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good morning! Glad to see the Eagle-cam back up. I am a bit tired this morning because I could not get to sleep until after 2am. I guess I should not have read the last two chapters right before bed (sniff, sniff, weep). Now back to chapter 1 to start all over again!

Are we doing the viewing chat tonight or tomorrow. If tonight, can we do it a bit earlier for us in the Midwest? I may still nod off in the middle, though.

3,289 posted on 04/25/2002 5:52:51 AM PDT by ecurbh
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To: ecurbh
I think it is a Friday night thing - But I still don't know what time. I will just do as I am told!
3,290 posted on 04/25/2002 5:54:24 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
The eagle still hasn't stood up yet this morning, so I don't know yet if there were any hatchings last night... still waiting! - going to be a nice sunny day today if they decide to come out!
3,291 posted on 04/25/2002 5:56:55 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
I took your advice. Here’s what I got without my middle name:

According to the Red Book of Westmarch, In Middle-earth, you are a – Miruvor-drinking Elf

Elven Name Possibilities: Belegre or Belegreion

Hobbit lad name – Samwise Sackville from Hobbiton

Dwarven Name – Dori Graniteslayer

Orkish Name – Skaihak the Clutcher

At least with this one I get to share a name with our good Master Samwise. ;^)

-Kevin

3,292 posted on 04/25/2002 6:05:47 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
I don't know if being a Sackville is much better than being a troll though. It sure thinks your name is unfriendly!
3,293 posted on 04/25/2002 6:08:02 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ksen;HairOfTheDog
Don't forget that you'll need a blacksmith to make a sword for that mysterious man (elf?) of your dreams. ;^)

Try out this: LoTR Replica Swords

3,294 posted on 04/25/2002 6:11:27 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: ksen;HairOfTheDog
Don't forget that you'll need a blacksmith to make a sword for that mysterious man (elf?) of your dreams. ;^)

Try out this: LoTR Replica Swords

3,295 posted on 04/25/2002 6:11:31 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
Before the crossing of the mountains the Hobbits had already become divided into three somewhat different breeds: Harfoots, Stoors, and Fallohides.

Oh!....those Harfoots.

3,296 posted on 04/25/2002 6:13:11 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
OK! - Those will do nicely then!

OK! - Those will do nicely then!

Good morning gremlins!

3,297 posted on 04/25/2002 6:14:35 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Overtaxed
We must be getting close to a "00" number, you're starting to double-post. ;^)

-Kevin

3,298 posted on 04/25/2002 6:15:23 AM PDT by ksen
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To: ksen
Hate it when OT gets the double ought with a silly cheating double post!
3,299 posted on 04/25/2002 6:16:16 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hate it when OT gets the double ought with a silly cheating double post!
3,300 posted on 04/25/2002 6:16:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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