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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
he is worried about his father (Denethor). I think he senses Denethor's strength (of will and moral character) slipping and he desparately wants to be the one to shore it up and help restore the former strength of Gondor. He is feeling a lot of weight on his shoulders from many sources

I remember reading that Sean Bean was called back last year to do some additional filming. Might PJ have added scenes with Boromir and Denethor which set up his journey to the Council as Gondor's representative? And might we see Boromir getting some inkling that all is not well with his father for those reasons which will be explained in RoTK?

27,061 posted on 09/23/2002 1:35:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog
And even elf-friends have to admit Haldir is a terrible snoot!
27,062 posted on 09/23/2002 1:35:23 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
His job is to be the snoot.... What is the point of having border guards if they don't screen people coming in?
27,063 posted on 09/23/2002 1:41:41 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: SuziQ
First of all, thank you for getting us back to something important and substantive. This whole subject of Boromir - Denethor - Gondor is fascinating.

I think that would be really neat if PJ did give us some flashback scenes with Boromir & Denethor. Where did you read that?

27,064 posted on 09/23/2002 1:47:53 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: Corin Stormhands
Roaring fires, malt beer, and ripe meat off the bone!
27,065 posted on 09/23/2002 1:49:48 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: HairOfTheDog
His job is to be the snoot.... What is the point of having border guards if they don't screen people coming in?

He didn't need to screen the Fellowship as ruthlessly snootily (ha) as he did.

Ruthlessly snootily...ruthlessly snootily...ruthlessly snootily...

27,066 posted on 09/23/2002 1:54:36 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Roaring fires, malt beer, and ripe meat off the bone!

Hopefully you meant "red meat." I'm not sure even the stoutest of dwarves would appreciate "ripe meat." ;-)

27,067 posted on 09/23/2002 1:54:38 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Me and my son have debated what he actually said and came to the conclusion it was "ripe" not red, but I'll give it another listen sometime. I initially thought it was "red" too.
27,068 posted on 09/23/2002 1:57:21 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; ksen; RosieCotton; HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
"Ruthless Snooty Elves" fits nicely in the keywords...
27,069 posted on 09/23/2002 1:59:22 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
Later folkses...
27,070 posted on 09/23/2002 2:00:28 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; ksen; Overtaxed; Corin Stormhands
Haldir of Lorien,
The ruthlessly snootily elf,
Gave a rude welcome to the Fellowship;
While cravenly elevating himself.

His long girly hair it was waving
As his cross-dressing friends aided him.
But revenge will be sweet as he buys it,
And falls off the walls at Helms Deep.

OK, it doesn't rhyme, but that's the best I could do on short notice....

27,071 posted on 09/23/2002 2:07:40 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: HairOfTheDog; BibChr
Hi Dan! Nice to see you again. That's a great sword - you say it's a bastard sword? I've never been able to see one of those, how long is it?

Thanks for defending the Elves, Hair. Is the Boro-bash still on?

27,072 posted on 09/23/2002 2:08:17 PM PDT by JenB
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I thought I read on one of the 'spoiler' threads that Sean Bean had been called back. The only reason for which I could think he'd be back was to do some extra scenes with Denethor. I would think it would have been too late at that time to have done anything else for FoTR, even for the Extended Version.

I remember Faramir alluding to Boromir's relationship to their father whe talking with Frodo in TTT. It would seem that the right place to put those scenes would be when Denethor becomes more prominent in RoTK and is talking about both his sons.

27,073 posted on 09/23/2002 2:08:50 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
It would seem that the right place to put those scenes would be when Denethor becomes more prominent in RoTK and is talking about both his sons.

I agree. PJ et al have been very good about providing background. I'm excited, also, that they are going to show Deagol and Smeagol and the creation (in effect) of Gollum in TTT. They are trying to dot all the i's and cross all the t's.....

27,074 posted on 09/23/2002 2:13:01 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: ksen
Plus we have a cool elf-bash icon to ping the bashers,

ksen;Corin Stormhands;g'nad;Alkhin;Overtaxed;Rosie Cotton;rightwingreligiousfanatic

27,075 posted on 09/23/2002 2:15:30 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Corin Stormhands; rightwingreligiousfanatic
Hopefully you meant "red meat." I'm not sure even the stoutest of dwarves would appreciate "ripe meat." ;-)

"Ripe meat off the bone" is what shows up with the subtitles on.

27,076 posted on 09/23/2002 2:24:58 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; Corin Stormhands
Thank you! I thought it was "ripe" upon closely listening. So, Corin, I think ripe just means rare, i.e. perfectly cooked....
27,077 posted on 09/23/2002 2:28:21 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
There is such a thing as "aged beef".
27,078 posted on 09/23/2002 2:39:25 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
OK, but how did you like my poem?
27,079 posted on 09/23/2002 2:40:35 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Liked it even though it didn't rhyme! What are you calling it? Poor book-Haldir!
27,080 posted on 09/23/2002 2:43:24 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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