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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The New Hobbit Hole

Concerning Hobbits

The New Hobbit Chronicles

This is a continuation of the infamous thread New Zealander Builds Hobbit Hole originally posted on January 26, 2001 by John Farson, who at the time undoubtedly thought he had found a rather obscure article that would elicit a few replies and die out. Without knowing it, he became the founder of the Hobbit Hole. For reasons incomprehensible to some, the thread grew to over 4100 replies. It became the place for hobbits and friends of hobbits to chit chat and share LoTR news and views, hang out, and talk amongst ourselves in the comfort of familiar surroundings.

In keeping with the new posting guidelines, the thread idea is continuing here, as will the Green Dragon Inn, our more structured spin-off thread, as soon as we figure out how to move all the good discussion that has been had there. As for the Hobbit Hole, we will just start fresh, bringing only a few mathoms such as the picture above with us to make it feel like home, and perhaps a walk down memory lane:

Our discussion has been light:

It very well may be that a thread named "New Zealander builds Hobbit hole" will end up being the longest Tolkien thread of them all, with some of the best heartfelt content... Sorry John, but I would have rather it had been one with a more distinguished title!… post 252 - HairOfTheDog

However, I can still celebrate, with quiet dignity, the fact that what started as a laugh about some wacko in New Zealand has mutated and grown into a multifaceted discussion of the art, literature, and philosophy that is Tolkien. And now that I've managed to write the most pompous sentence of my entire life, I agree, Rosie… post 506 - JenB

Hah! I was number 1000!! (Elvish victory dance... wait, no; that would be too flitty) … post 1001 - BibChr

Real men don't have to be afraid of being flitty! Go for it. – post 1011 – HairOfTheDog

Seventeen years to research one mystical object seems a bit excessive… post 1007 - JenB

Okay...who's the wise guy who didn't renew Gandalf's research grant?… post 1024 – Overtaxed

To the very philosophical:

…Judas Iscariot obviously was a good man, or he wouldn't have been chosen to be one of the Apostles. He loved Jesus, like all of the Apostles, but he betrayed him. Yet without his betrayal, the Passion and Crucifixion would never have occurred, and mankind would not have been redeemed. So without his self-destruction infinite good would not have been accomplished. I certainly do not mean this to be irreverant but it seems to me that this describes the character of Gollum, in the scenes so movingly portrayed above… Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To fun but heartfelt debates about the integrity and worth of some of the characters…

…Anyone else notice how Boromir treats the hobbits? He's very fond of them but he seems to think of them as children - ruffling Frodo's hair, calls them all 'little ones'. He likes them, but I don't think he really respects them… post 1536 - JenB

Yes... Tolkien told us not to trust Boromir right off the bat when he began to laugh at Bilbo, until he realized that the Council obviously held this hobbit in high esteem. What a pompous dolt… post 1538 - HairOfTheDog

…I think almost every fault of his can be traced directly back to his blindness to anything spiritual or unseen. He considers the halflings as children, because that is what they look like. He considers the only hope of the ring to be in taking it and using it for a victory in the physical realm. He cannot see what the hobbits are truly made of, he cannot see the unseen hope of what the destruction of the ring might mean--the destruction of Sauron himself, and he cannot see the unseen danger that lies in the use of the ring itself… I just feel sorry for Boromir--he is like a blind but honorable man, trying to take the right path on the road but missing the right path entirely because he simply cannot see it… post 1548 - Penny1

Boromir isn't a jerk, he's a jock… post 2401 – Overtaxed

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Oh, I think by the time Frodo reaches the Cracks, he's not even himself anymore! I think he's not only on the brink of a dangerous place physically, he's on the brink of losing himself completely during the exchange with Gollum. But for some reason, the take-over isn't complete till he actually has to throw the Ring in. The person speaking to Gollum is not Frodo, but the "Wheel of Fire" that Sam sees. After the Ring is destroyed, Frodo not only comes back to himself, but comes back with the unbearable (to him) knowledge of what it's like to be completely without compassion. I think that's why it's so important to him to be compassionate in the Shire… post 2506 - 2Jedismom

…Regarding Frodo's compassion... it's a little too much at the end. Even Merry tells him that he's going to have to quit being so darn nice. But you're right. He's learned a lesson about evil that very few ever learn since it wasn't an external lesson but an internal one. (Those kinds of lessons have the greatest impact) Not only did he totally succumb to it, but he was rather ruthless to my little Smeagol… post 2516 - carton253

Well that Frodo was a big mean bully! (to Smeagol)… post 2519 – Overtaxed

So as you can see, everything JRR Tolkien (and Peter Jackson) is welcome here in our New Row, our soon-to-be familiar New Hobbit Hole…; philosophy, opinion, good talk and frequent silliness.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat; Poetry; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Hey, his backpack is growing a beard in front! LOL! What's up with that? I don't want to think about what he uses that for, do I?

No, definitely not.

26,281 posted on 09/19/2002 7:23:21 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Well, your excused, because you are relatively new and didn't know I've been struggling to get this chess set for almost 8 months!!!!!!

;-)

26,282 posted on 09/19/2002 7:28:22 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh I saw that long ago. Isn't it on the DVD? I've been smug for quite some time now! LOL

That poster of Frodo though...my goodness, it hurts to look at it.
26,283 posted on 09/19/2002 7:30:36 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
Just so we won't have to scroll back:


26,284 posted on 09/19/2002 7:33:28 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Where did you find out about these posters? Torn? I can't stand to go to Torn...it gets me so excited I'm afraid I'll make myself sick again and so I just avoid it...most the time.
26,285 posted on 09/19/2002 7:38:52 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic; Overtaxed
Anyway, I'm sure he's not carrying school supplies in that backpack......

Oh, stop me, I'm cracking myself up here.....

26,286 posted on 09/19/2002 7:40:09 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: 2Jedismom
I've been struggling to get this chess set for almost 8 months!!!!!!

I didn't know Tulsa was so.....so......remote. Did the wagon train just pull into town or something?

26,287 posted on 09/19/2002 7:45:17 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: 2Jedismom
They're at Elbakin.com. I found them through warofthering.net where I just found this neat TTT pic:

Must be some elf on the right....he's wearing girly armor. :)

26,288 posted on 09/19/2002 7:47:58 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I just heard about it! I knew it was coming and then read on TORN a couple of days ago that someone got it. I suspect your son got one of the first sets out! Mentioning this to me would have caused a flurry of questions from me, like what part of the country do you live in and what store! As it is, I almost missed it here in Tulsa...the only place that had it was one of the Targets here (we have 4 or 5) and I got one of the last two.

I called EVERYWHERE! Walmart, ToysRUs...K-Mart (didn't have much hope for K-mart, but had to try.) When the lady at Target said "We only have two left." I almost screamed "Put my name on it!!" She did and put it up at the service desk and I picked it up a little while later.

26,289 posted on 09/19/2002 7:50:34 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Anyway, I'm sure he's not carrying school supplies in that backpack......

Oh, I don't know...you know how some of those kids dress these days!

My cartoonist brother actually did a cartoon on this subject: a picture of an orc labeled "A modern day orc" and next to it a picture of a kid with multiple piercings, strange clothes, spiked hair, etc. labeled "A modern day highschooler". Underneath it says, "Not much difference, is there?"

Not that all kids are like that, but there are certainly some orc-ish types!

26,290 posted on 09/19/2002 7:55:48 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; All
I did not know the chess set was new. I'm sure ours was found at Target also. Minnesota is the home base for Target you know, they started here in the 1970's. Target rules around here, there must be at least 25 in the suburban Twin Cities.

It's funny that Rosie called it Tarzhay because that's what we call it, too. Sometimes we call it Tarzhay Boutique.

Before the movie came out, they had every single action figure. I should have snapped them all up. After the movie came out, I've only been able to get Gimli, Frodo, and Saruman. (Could've got Lurtz, too, but didn't want to). I will be checking the shelves frequently pre-TTT to make sure I don't miss something.....

26,291 posted on 09/19/2002 8:02:31 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: RosieCotton
Not that all kids are like that, but there are certainly some orc-ish types!

Too true, too true, more's the pity. I can't abide the extreme piercing. I hope it is a fad that will die out soon....

26,292 posted on 09/19/2002 8:04:51 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
It's funny that Rosie called it Tarzhay because that's what we call it, too. Sometimes we call it Tarzhay Boutique.

That wasn't me...we don't have any such thing up our way. :-( Actually, we have ZERO department type stores in town now that Ames is going out of business. If I want to get anything besides books, hardware and pet foods, I have to drive over to NH to the Walmart about 45 min.-1 hr. away. And that Walmart has NO LOTR stuff at all.

26,293 posted on 09/19/2002 8:08:40 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton; SuziQ
Sorry, I got you confused with SuziQ. Suzi, see my post at #26291
26,294 posted on 09/19/2002 8:22:03 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Oh my goodness! That is one hideous orc

It looks to me like it has a stump for a left arm. If so, that is some originality to create a fighter who is obviously battle worn. It sure gives some 'authenticity' to the characters, doesn't it?

26,295 posted on 09/19/2002 8:27:22 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: RosieCotton
Walmart has NO LOTR stuff at all.

WHAT!

That's sacreligious (sp?)!

45 minutes to get to a Wal Mart? Wow! You are remote.... I have a Wal Mart and 3 Targets within 10 minutes drive....

26,296 posted on 09/19/2002 8:29:22 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: RosieCotton; Overtaxed
Look where I'm going this weekend...

http://www.tulsascottishgames.com/
26,297 posted on 09/19/2002 8:30:19 AM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
I've been struggling to get this chess set for almost 8 months!!!!!!

Sorry, 2JM, I just walked into Tarzhay this morning and got one of them! I looked in the gift aisle, and didn't see it, so as I was leaving the store, I stopped by Customer Service. The lady called to one of the stock guys and asked him if they had them. He checked in the toy aisle, found it there and brought it up to the front for me. It's make by Parker Brothers, by the way. It looks like a neat set!

26,298 posted on 09/19/2002 8:31:21 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
that is some originality to create a fighter who is obviously battle worn. It sure gives some 'authenticity' to the characters, doesn't it?

Yes, the creators and PJ are doing a fabulous job on that account.

This orc looks very authentic indeed, and very angry, too. He looks like he really has an axe to grind, or would have if he had an axe;^)

I think Gimli has one in mind for him....

26,299 posted on 09/19/2002 8:33:58 AM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
Sneak..
26,300 posted on 09/19/2002 8:34:24 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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