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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I would recommend wading into the Lost Tales right after finishing the Silmarillion. It helps to have the final version of the stories fresh in your mind, to see how different the first version was! :)
25,341 posted on 09/12/2002 3:08:05 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
I am not familiar with Futurama... Does he have a thing on his head too?
25,342 posted on 09/12/2002 3:10:01 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
So the Lost Tales were the source for the Silmarillion? I didn't know that. Thanks...

Gotta run now....later....

25,343 posted on 09/12/2002 3:10:58 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: RosieCotton
I want my books! Arrgghh!

Try Encyclopedia of Arda. Rings of Water, Air, and Fire.

25,344 posted on 09/12/2002 3:12:25 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
As a Parole Officer, she has to testify in court alot, and so she knows which judges and which prosecutors are any good, at least from her perspective,

My sister used to be an investigator for a District Attorney in South Mississippi (she was the first woman in the State to hold that position, I believe). She had the poop on the judges AND the attorneys. She knew which attorneys actually WORKED and which ones only put in the time! It is good to know people in those positions!

25,345 posted on 09/12/2002 3:12:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hii, hi, Elf historian here. Answering all the questions right off.

Elrond did not have a ring until sometime after the Last Alliance. Gil-Galad (name means, basically, "Starlight", though it has connotations of "Star-shine" as well) had the ring of Water, Vilya, until his death. So it's not likely that Elrond took the ring right off Gil-galad's still warm corpse. That's the kind of thing Men do...

Gandalf has Narya, the ring of fire, which was Cirdan's. Gandalf showed up about a thousand years after the Last Alliance

Some people are being unfair with the whole Turgon thing. If you'll remember, his friend Huor told him to leave because he knew that was the only hope for Middle Earth... which was true. Huor's son Tuor would marry Turgon's daughter Idril, and their son would be Earendil, and his sons were Elrond and Elros....

Any other queries I missed? I'm in database class, please distract me!

25,346 posted on 09/12/2002 3:13:08 PM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
The dude knows when trouble is coming!

The basic elf-instict to run away when danger approaches. Witness Gildor putting as much distance as he could between him and Frodo when he found out the Black Riders were after the little guy!

25,347 posted on 09/12/2002 3:17:40 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
If it had ended that day, we wouldn't have the rest of the story, though, right?;^)

We would just have had a different story. How about Saruman, knowing the one ring is gone, tries for the Three Rings? Just think of all that elf-running!

25,348 posted on 09/12/2002 3:21:50 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB
Thanks.... So Elrond would have been ringless there at the pit of Mt. Doom.

What would have been his chances of beeing able to take out Isildur at that moment? In your humble opionion?

If you are in database class, can you help me fix a report? - My query is confused. It is answering the wrong question! Should I fix the query or just change the report title to act like I wanted the aswer it gave me all along? ;~D
25,349 posted on 09/12/2002 3:23:49 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Futurama is an animated show on Fox on Sunday nights (or at least, it was). On the show, brain slugs are alien parasites that attach to a person's head and control their thoughts.
25,350 posted on 09/12/2002 3:25:03 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: rightwingreligiousfanatic
I think Elrond was one of the most weakly cast individuals in the whole movie and is worthy of being bashed mercilessly, curly toenails and all....

I actually like Elrond! His attitude toward men could also be because he was half-man, half-elf, though he chose the immortal life. He must have held in contempt the weaker part of his nature, having seen what became of the descendents of his brother who chose the mortal life of men.

25,351 posted on 09/12/2002 3:26:56 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: JenB
Thanks for correcting the meaning of Gil-Galad's name! :)
25,352 posted on 09/12/2002 3:28:36 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: HairOfTheDog
What would have been his chances of beeing able to take out Isildur at that moment?

Isildur would have kicked his butt.

25,353 posted on 09/12/2002 3:30:34 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog
What would have been his chances of beeing able to take out Isildur at that moment? In your humble opionion?

Uh... good question. Isildur did have the Ring, but he didn't know how to use it, and I doubt it was too fond of him. Elrond, on the other hand, was an Elf - but not near as powerful as he is in LotR. He was Gil-galad's right hand man, but he wasn't as wise, strong, or noble as he would become.

I'd say, yes, he could take out Isildur. But he wouldn't have; that's not in his character.

25,354 posted on 09/12/2002 3:33:53 PM PDT by JenB
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To: HairOfTheDog
Ah, found one!


25,355 posted on 09/12/2002 3:42:34 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: SuziQ
I have learned to tolerate him in the movie. He is not that bad. And your reminder of his dual nature helps me to better appreciate his dilemma.

I had just pictured Elrond as being much more, oh, I don't know..."comfortably in commmand", wise and placid. Whereas in the movie he seems a bit uptight and out of his depth.... Just my first impression...

25,356 posted on 09/12/2002 3:59:11 PM PDT by rightwingreligiousfanatic
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To: HairOfTheDog
Foiled again! No hot-linking allowed, apparently. Oh well, here's the link:

Brain slug on Hermes

25,357 posted on 09/12/2002 4:00:35 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Well! - Yes that is perfect! - At least your blocked image didn't do whatever Rosie's did!
25,358 posted on 09/12/2002 4:02:29 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
At least your blocked image didn't do whatever Rosie's did!

(blush!) I guess I'm lucky at that... I'm going to have to get a website of my own again so I can stop hotlinking...

25,359 posted on 09/12/2002 4:05:24 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Overtaxed

25,360 posted on 09/12/2002 4:08:14 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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