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To: HairOfTheDog
Hii, hi, Elf historian here. Answering all the questions right off.

Elrond did not have a ring until sometime after the Last Alliance. Gil-Galad (name means, basically, "Starlight", though it has connotations of "Star-shine" as well) had the ring of Water, Vilya, until his death. So it's not likely that Elrond took the ring right off Gil-galad's still warm corpse. That's the kind of thing Men do...

Gandalf has Narya, the ring of fire, which was Cirdan's. Gandalf showed up about a thousand years after the Last Alliance

Some people are being unfair with the whole Turgon thing. If you'll remember, his friend Huor told him to leave because he knew that was the only hope for Middle Earth... which was true. Huor's son Tuor would marry Turgon's daughter Idril, and their son would be Earendil, and his sons were Elrond and Elros....

Any other queries I missed? I'm in database class, please distract me!

25,346 posted on 09/12/2002 3:13:08 PM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Thanks.... So Elrond would have been ringless there at the pit of Mt. Doom.

What would have been his chances of beeing able to take out Isildur at that moment? In your humble opionion?

If you are in database class, can you help me fix a report? - My query is confused. It is answering the wrong question! Should I fix the query or just change the report title to act like I wanted the aswer it gave me all along? ;~D
25,349 posted on 09/12/2002 3:23:49 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JenB
Thanks for correcting the meaning of Gil-Galad's name! :)
25,352 posted on 09/12/2002 3:28:36 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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