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Why do men cheat on their wives?
Ask Dr Gaylen ^

Posted on 02/23/2002 6:23:46 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Yeah. That's what I thought. She claims she didn't want to deal with a fight at the time it happened. Doesn't really explain why I had to find out years later.

I probably would have punched the guy out, but that would have been a healthy response I think. Now I can just steam about it, while the jerk is several thousand miles away in Scotland. OK. I've had enough of this venting. I'm having a bad week. I'm not normally this melodramatic.

381 posted on 02/24/2002 8:59:07 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: mackattack; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Wealthy and mute! (lol)

You forgot that other thing, girlfriend.

"... and nearly dead." The perfect man.

382 posted on 02/24/2002 9:01:45 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: mackattack
"keeping informaton from me that caused problems". It happens all the time. Maybe I'm just too hung up on openness and honesty for my own good. For some though, little white lies and omission of information are a way of life.
383 posted on 02/24/2002 9:02:40 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Gumption
A buddy of mine said it this way, "One day in his life, every man wakes up and is no longer a hostage to a madman called a penis. This is the day his life begins in earnest."
384 posted on 02/24/2002 9:06:17 AM PST by alaskanfan
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To: StolarStorm
In a situation like that, it's important to remember that if he considers this guy a good friend, then he has a right to know if that friendship is not being reciprocated. She has to differentiate between "important" actions, and "trivial" actions. In your scenario, the action is an "important" one, and therefore should be revealed, not hidden. Any time a so-called friend makes a move on his friend's wife, that is cause for concern and disclosure. In so doing, she affirms her commitment to her husband, and prevents long-term problems. He'll get over the short-term problem, and will know that, if nothing else, he has his wife's love and faithfulness, hence no problem there.

It comes down to understanding where loyalties lie. A married man's first and primary loyalty must be to his wife, and to their relationship. You don't have a real marriage without that. And hers must be the same, or the marriage is in serious trouble, even if it doesn't seem so at the time. In this scenario, by remaining silent about it, she has compromised her main loyalty, whether she knows it or not. She has placed the well-being of her husband's friend above her husband's own well-being, under the false guise of "protecting" her husband. She's not protecting her husband, she's protecting his so-called friend, which means that at some level, she responded subconsciously to his advances. That spells trouble in capital letters, because when the truth comes out, the husband will not only feel like a fool, he will feel betrayed, and by the one person in this world that should never do so. That's a clear definition of being blind-sided, and I can tell you this from my own experience, there is nothing that hurts more than being blind-sided by the one you love. Betrayal is a nasty feeling, and it can set into motion a lot of unlovely events. I would venture to say that in many cases, a man's cheating can be traced to a betrayal of trust somewhere in the past on the part of his wife, and it may have been done innocently, with the best of intentions. By not seeing it for what it is, all kinds of problems can result.

386 posted on 02/24/2002 9:15:09 AM PST by nobdysfool
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To: StolarStorm, mackattack
No Stolar, a "little white lie" is "yes, your baby is cute".... not what your wife did.... she betrayed you...
387 posted on 02/24/2002 9:25:54 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: nobdysfool
You said that much more eloquently than I....
388 posted on 02/24/2002 9:27:16 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: koba
as women get older they become less attractive. Men generally like young women, and as they get older men have more money so they can buy all the women they want. It's just biology,

Many women become more attractive (and yes, better in bed) as they get older _if_ they are happy and treated by their spouse with respect and admiration. Of course in our coarse culture there are less of these kinds of healthy relationships than there should be.

Older men who chase young women are often like fools and their money--they are soon parted.
389 posted on 02/24/2002 9:35:29 AM PST by cgbg
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Should I even mention what she did when my Grandfather was dying? Didn't want to go with me to see him (and support me) cause she didn't feel like it, after I had spent countless days in hospitals with her grandmother and then her father earlier in our marriage and now I'm doing the same thing all over again.... The one time I really needed her she had "bad vibes"... Ok ok now I really need to stop. I've having my own little pity party. See ya.
390 posted on 02/24/2002 9:38:44 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: KirkandBurke
NO!!! Someone has to take out the trash! lol
391 posted on 02/24/2002 9:57:14 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: socal_parrot
That is one of the great mysteries of the world certainly. I could actually see cheating on Diana with someone like a page3 girl, while Diana was certainly beautiful she had that kind of beauty that would keep me (and presumably some other men) from... how shall we say... getting really nasty. She had a very pure beauty that just doesn't mix well with certain bedroom activities. But cheat on her with Camilla?! Final proof that inbreeding will destroy a blood line.
392 posted on 02/24/2002 10:02:21 AM PST by discostu
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Yeah. You've got a point. I think that in some of the divorce cases I have had close personal access to, the couple married when they were young, relatively inexperienced with a lot of things, and had all kinds of expectations with limited realistic knowledge of how life and society works. When their high school and college mentality of mutual narcissism was challenged by realities of daily married life, they choked. Adultery in itself is not necessarily a reason to divorce, although I well understand why someone would seek that.

There's a girl I know (I say "a girl" but she's really 32) who has just burned through her third cohabiting "committed" sexual relationship. She's bitter, of course. But from her conversations with me I can kind of tell that some of her expectations are unrealistic. Maybe the guy was a creep, but there are always two sides to these stories. Some people don't know how to "make up" after arguments or major disagreements, but there are cases where some sort of separation is inevitable. Call it "The Woody Allen Syndrome." Or maybe The Henry the Eighth Syndrome. There are plenty of men who are bad news.

Widely divergent differences of opinion, taste, lifestyle, politics, or religion (in mid-life) can also be potent triggers. Look at Jane Fonda and Ted Turner! And when it's not sex,politics, and religion, money can rear its ugly head in the oddest and most demented ways.

I never figured out the real story with Lady Diana and Charles Windsor though. Classic age difference and personality clash, maybe?

393 posted on 02/24/2002 10:02:46 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: StolarStorm
If that comes from your life like the other stuff you've put on this thread I have a suggestion for you: hermit. The people in your life are too friggin' wierd, go live in a cave for a few years and start over from scratch later.

All in all I'd actually have to say she did something good. Friendships are built on more than one thing, but can be seriously damaged by just one incident. But, especially given how we men are, if there's time between the incident and the reveal stuff like this can often be settled with a minor skuffle and some beer (he's buying though). Why screw up a friendship over something that will eventually become water under the bridge? Also time needs to be given to see what was really behind what he did, does he come back the next day and apologize wondering what got into him, or does he keep it up.

394 posted on 02/24/2002 10:10:16 AM PST by discostu
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Whew... Charles and Di would be a lengthy thread all on their own.... but I tend to lean more toward he needed a suitable vessel for heirs, she was enamoured by his position..... nothing to do with love or attraction.....

I love your comment regarding the narcissism of College mentality crashing into reality..... that is priceless!

395 posted on 02/24/2002 10:10:59 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Age of Reason
I don't know, I've never wanted one, lifelong bachelor here. Who's watched all his friends, at one time or another, go through crud I stayed single (and dumped girlfriends) to avoid.
398 posted on 02/24/2002 10:18:50 AM PST by Argh
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To: nobdysfool
Too true.
399 posted on 02/24/2002 10:20:27 AM PST by Argh
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To: Lowelljr
Hmm. I love the theory, and know what my LL is.

Are you sure there aren't any others though? I don't think she speaks any of those lol ;-)

400 posted on 02/24/2002 10:21:38 AM PST by Dales
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