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We already have socialism wherein 111 million Americans live off of 150 million that work. We don't have enough Americans 'pulling the wagon', and way to many riding it. The welfare costs at least 1 trillion a year, plus the 1 Trillion a year in interest, and then another 1 trillion a year for illegals. That's now close to HALF of the Federal Budget.

States need to become responsible for 'Welfare', it's a State's 10th Amendment responsibility. The Federal government has to get out of the NGO and welfare business.

1 posted on 07/06/2026 6:15:08 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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Using the safety net as a hammock.


2 posted on 07/06/2026 6:16:56 AM PDT by Salman (We need to proceed as if the system were completely broken, because it is. )
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The figures seem to include homemakers.

That needs to be backed out of the numbers.


3 posted on 07/06/2026 6:20:31 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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From your math, it appears that we’re past the point of being able to vote our way out of it. (And the judges won’t let anyone deprive them of their “right” to their welfare benefits.) So ...


4 posted on 07/06/2026 6:21:34 AM PDT by BuchananBrigadeTrumpFan (If in doubt, it's probably sarcasm)
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In the sweet old country where I come from

Nobody ever works, nothing ever gets done

We hang fire

We got nothing to eat, we go nowhere to work

Nothing to drink. We just lost our shirt

I'm on the dole, we ain't for hire

Say what the hell? Say what the hell?

and Hang fire . . . .

Back when the Rolling Stones took a turn to the Right, they put out Hang Fire. They were singing about lazy, Socialist England of the late 1970s but it applies to the US now.

5 posted on 07/06/2026 6:23:05 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Somewhere along the line we lost the “you don’t work, you don’t eat” ethos. I wonder who started that trend?


6 posted on 07/06/2026 6:23:47 AM PDT by Kudsman (John (no can do) Thune. Where ya at John? We need you John. Send help John . Send up a flare John!)
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This needs to be broken down by age groups and households.

An example....my daughter, who is married, doesn't have a job. But her husband does.

Yet she's counted as unemployed.

I myself am retired so I fit in the 111 million "out of work".

Really need some better metrics on this.

7 posted on 07/06/2026 6:26:49 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Capital replaces labor.


8 posted on 07/06/2026 6:28:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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It’s simple: we keep importing foreigners who work more cheaply.

If you want jobs available for these 111 million Americans, then the people who aren’t Americans need to leave. Simple as.


10 posted on 07/06/2026 6:30:22 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Pete Dovgan; FRiends

The situation is hopeless and a lot of people are going to have a very RUDE awakening when the SHTF. Many are so clueless about a household budget, and couple THAT with so many being LAZY and so many so used to being given everything FOR FREE.

When the SHTF I’m expecting riots in the cities and when they’ve destroyed all of that, I see the mongrels heading out to the countryside to harass those of us who have always paid their way through confiscatory TAXES.

TAXATION IS THEFT! INFLATION IS THEFT! Don’t kid yourselves; Mother Government is in the BUSINESS of THEFT and wealth redistribution.

It’s not going to end well. It never has ended well for any other country that’s gone broke.


11 posted on 07/06/2026 6:30:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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In late 2009, more than 15 million people were unemployed. Somebody’s numbers don’t add up.


12 posted on 07/06/2026 6:31:43 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Uhhh….we have about 30 million more people (at least the ones we know about) than we did back then…


13 posted on 07/06/2026 6:31:50 AM PDT by volare737 ( Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated. )
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Yes but how many of them are Baby Boomers. We’ve had a low birth rate since the ‘70s so because we want to have Social Security so we should be at 450 million today.


16 posted on 07/06/2026 6:34:23 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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How is that even possible?

We only have a population of 350 mil. Our unemployment rate is 4.2%
Yet 111 mil adults [nearly 30% of the population] are not employed?

I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but that makes no sense to me.


21 posted on 07/06/2026 6:37:19 AM PDT by Adder ("A pack of jackasses led by a lion is superior to a pack of lions led by a jackass.” GW.)
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We have a totally printed, fiat money supply, courtesy of the Federal Reserve, which allows Fed.gov to run $2-3 Trillion deficits every year

We also have China, which is still willing to do much of our manufacturing work for us, in exchange for printed, green Federal Reserve notes.

Its a pretty good deal, while it lasts.


27 posted on 07/06/2026 6:45:22 AM PDT by PGR88
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It’s elementary economics: If you subsidize something, you’re guaranteed to get more of it. The worst of our many “social safety net” programs have subsidized indolence, irresponsibility and bastardy, and now we’re drowning in all three. The growth of shamelessness certainly doesn’t help.


33 posted on 07/06/2026 6:57:46 AM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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Cut the Social Safety Net.


35 posted on 07/06/2026 7:00:08 AM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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How about getting rid of all of the bullshit regulations that prevent job creation...


38 posted on 07/06/2026 7:13:56 AM PDT by eldoradude (Think for yourself...)
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When the warm embrace of socialism engulfs us all, we’ll be fat, dumb and happy.


39 posted on 07/06/2026 7:19:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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These are stupid numbers — because they include most retirees.

If you are 85 years old and you are not living in a nursing home, you are considered an “available worker” under U.S. Department of Labor statistics — even if you’ve been retired for 20 years.

40 posted on 07/06/2026 7:19:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If I leave here, it’s because I’m tired of arguing with geriatric parrots wearing MAGA hats.)
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How many are really Americans.🙄🤔


41 posted on 07/06/2026 7:19:50 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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