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Finally: the Supreme Court will decide if common guns are really common - Is the very common AR-15 really common?
American Thinker ^ | 5 Jul, 2026 | Mike McDaniel

Posted on 07/05/2026 8:40:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The Supreme Court’s Heller decision in 2008 established that the Second Amendment is a fundamental, unalienable—God-given--right that does indeed acknowledge, but not grant, the right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes such as self-defense. Unfortunately, the wheels of justice grind slowly, and it was not until 2022 that the Court handed down its Bruen decision, which affirmed that the right to bear arms extends to wherever Americans might be. What good is a right that can only be exercised in one’s home or on one’s property? Where is self-defense more likely, in one’s kitchen or out there in the wild, wild world?

While the Court did not define every issue involved, it did note that arms in “common use” are presumptively constitutional.

During those 14 years and beyond, anti-liberty/gun zealots wrote all manner of plainly unconstitutional laws to harass, bankrupt, and imprison gun makers and citizens in the expectation that if they made gun ownership too expensive, Americans would give up their guns. The opposite happened, and the more they tried to violate the Constitution, the more guns Americans bought, more than a million a month for many years.

Among the tactics employed against common firearms is labeling them “assault weapons.” And what might an “assault weapon” be? Generally, any gun anti-liberty/gun zealots want to ban. Specifically, they’ve focused on the exceedingly common AR-15, the most popular semiautomatic rifle in America, accounting for well over 20 million.

Graphic: Common AR-15 variant. Author.

SNIP

Now, to the horror of the self-imagined elite, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear two assault weapon ban cases in its next term:

SCOTUS will consolidate Viramontes v. Cook County, a Seventh Circuit (Illinois) case and Grant v. Higgins from the Second Circuit (Connecticut).

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To: MtnClimber

Ok....common gun, eh?

Not counting Mike Hammer and his beloved 1911 ‘Betsy’,
what is “the common gun” for plainclothes men, up through the 1970’s?
(I’ll take design, not necessarily manufacturer).


21 posted on 07/05/2026 9:37:37 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Red Badger

Tell me something I Didn’t know....
/$

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I HAD a Thompson and it was a very miserable thing to shoot. Heavy and bad mag realease. The Rear stock is Stupid.
The sights were horrendous and range was worse than my 1911s’.
.
The M1A Is a Battle Rifle !
The ‘American Rifle’ is a Joy even though the Design is SIXTY Years old !
It’s come Along Way Baby !
Cheers


22 posted on 07/05/2026 9:45:50 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Good SCIENCE is Not Faith BUT Curiosity. )
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To: ealgeone; Antihero101607; MtnClimber

Actual data are your friend:

Heller: Roberts in the 5-4 majority.

Bruen: Roberts, ACB in the 6-3 majority

Wolford v. Lopez (Hawaii case): Roberts, ACB in the 6-3 majority

United States v. Hemani (marijuana use and gun case): Roberts, ACB in a 9-0 vote.

Fear pr0n is so boring.


23 posted on 07/05/2026 9:47:27 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Terry L Smith

Mike Hammers ‘Betsy’ 1911 ?
I’m checking That.


24 posted on 07/05/2026 9:49:54 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Good SCIENCE is Not Faith BUT Curiosity. )
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To: MtnClimber
To me, the actual term, “assault weapon” insinuates that it will be used in an “offensive” manner only. That suggests intent. Intent is what’s liberals seem to ignore when it comes to commission of crimes. All they see is the evil gun, ignoring the societal causes of crime, or blaming the causes on right-wing policies, or, specifically, Trump.

So in my eyes, the term assault weapon is bogus, just like liberals’ thought processes.

25 posted on 07/05/2026 9:55:12 AM PDT by telescope115 (Ad Astra, Ad Deum…)
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To: MtnClimber

Shoots me! SCOTUS is a crap shoot.
Molon Labe
μολὼν λαβέ


26 posted on 07/05/2026 9:59:53 AM PDT by cqnc (sic transit gloria mundi...)
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To: DoodleBob
And in the birth right case.....Roberts and ACB were with the libs.

On bammycare....roberts with the libs.

On homo marriage...roberts with the libs.

As you noted....data is your friend.

They're shaky at best.

27 posted on 07/05/2026 10:00:44 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: telescope115
To me, the actual term, “assault weapon” insinuates that it will be used in an “offensive” manner only.

*****

Every weapon is, or will be termed, an "assault weapon" as interpreted by libs.

For that matter a vehicle could be an assault weapon.

28 posted on 07/05/2026 10:02:18 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MtnClimber

“A well regulated Militia...”

I interpret regulated to mean properly trained. Most 2A enthusiasts are “moderately trained”. A few seem to be untrained and need training... especially on not getting drunk or high while carrying.

ALL of the 2A should receive attention.


29 posted on 07/05/2026 10:08:59 AM PDT by spintreebob (m)
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To: spintreebob

“A well regulated Militia...”

I interpret regulated to mean properly trained. Most 2A enthusiasts are “moderately trained”. A few seem to be untrained and need training... especially on not getting drunk or high while carrying.

ALL of the 2A should receive attention.


The well regulated militia means more than ability and knowledge of guns. It is about a deep understanding of the Constitution.


30 posted on 07/05/2026 10:10:49 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ((Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere))
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To: Terry L Smith

Stacy Keach....
1911
.
Oh Yes!


31 posted on 07/05/2026 10:16:53 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Good SCIENCE is Not Faith BUT Curiosity. )
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To: spintreebob

TRAINED ?
BY Who?


32 posted on 07/05/2026 10:18:40 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Good SCIENCE is Not Faith BUT Curiosity. )
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To: MtnClimber; All
Thank you for referencing that article MtnClimber.

Finally: the Supreme Court will decide if common guns are really common - Is the very common AR-15 really common?


As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

Given that the AR-15 was patented in 1955, most of its patents said to now be expired, how can the Supremes decide on a whim that this firearm is unconstitutional?

By the way, "we" need to amend the Constitution to prohibit birthright citizenship so that the post-FDR era Supremes cannot likewise give aid and comfort to vote-buying, anti-2nd Amendment, elite desperate Democrats on that issue again.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control (Non-FR)

33 posted on 07/05/2026 10:28:06 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Antihero101607; MtnClimber

The M-16A1 I carried was rather light when compared to the M-1 Garand and especially compared to the Thompson sub-machine gun. The old M-3 “Grease Gun” was a tad lighter than the M-16.


34 posted on 07/05/2026 10:28:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Antihero101607; MtnClimber

The M-16A1 I carried was rather light when compared to the M-1 Garand and especially compared to the Thompson sub-machine gun. The old M-3 “Grease Gun” was a tad lighter than the M-16.


35 posted on 07/05/2026 10:28:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ealgeone

Yes, but the others are all 2A cases; the ones you mentioned were not. Their record is consistent on 2A cases.


36 posted on 07/05/2026 10:34:26 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: ripnbang

I hope it continues....whenever there’s a key case I hold my breath because of Roberts primarily....and then ACB.


37 posted on 07/05/2026 10:37:52 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MtnClimber

If it is good enough for Miss America 1962 to shoot it is good for us today.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/06/07/blast-from-the-past-miss-america-shooting-a-cutting-edge-rifle/


38 posted on 07/05/2026 10:53:21 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE CLOSED MENTAL HOSPITALS! Closed in the 1970s, murders by crazies sky rocketed!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Eeee-yuk!


39 posted on 07/05/2026 11:20:37 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Sirius Lee

Eeee-yuk!


40 posted on 07/05/2026 11:20:38 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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