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Legendary Sci-Fi Author Harlan Ellison Had Nothing But Harsh Words About Star Wars
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Posted on 07/02/2026 5:04:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Most stories one reads about the legendary sci-fi author Harlan Ellison tend to be about how cranky and/or litigious he was. Harlan Ellison hated Hollywood. The stories about his dissatisfaction with "Star Trek" are legendary, and he often took other writers and/or studios to court, claiming they had ripped off his idea. He once sued the makers of the obscure 1970s sci-fi cop show "Future Cop," and he famously (and successfully) sued James Cameron over "The Terminator." He sued the movie "In Time" for "borrowing" one of his ideas. And in interviews, Ellison remained cantankerous. A notable 1979 interview with the Comics Journal revealed the man's open hatred for studios' habit of stealing other authors' ideas and claiming them as their own.

In 1989, Ellison published a book of reviews and essays called "Harlan Ellison's Watching," which compiled 25 years of his ancillary nonfiction writing output. He weighed in on various pop sci-fi films and TV shows, adding his two acidic cents to the otherwise genteel conversation. It was never a secret that Harlan Ellison hated George Lucas' 1977 sci-fi opera "Star Wars," as he would make passing mention of it in ancillary interviews, but in "Watching," he got to lay his opinions bare in an essay entitled "Luke Skywalker Is A Nerd And Darth Vader Sucks Runny Eggs." As one can tell, Ellison was not about to launch into a paean about the glories of Lucas' Skywalker saga. He was about to lay out, in explicit detail, just how much he hated "Star Wars" and why.

In brief, Ellison felt that "Star Wars" was shallow and thoughtless, not interested in anything complex or adult. Because it was a mere adventure, it didn't fully exploit the depths of its own genre.

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To: marktwain
Harlan was talented, no doubt about it. Unfortunately, he used his talent to attack normality and morality. He appears to have hated western civilization.

So he was a garden-variety Democrat.

41 posted on 07/02/2026 7:21:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Israel über alles.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

“I don’t know anyone who thought it was, or needed to be, deep and serious”

I was astounded my 2001.

I had some naive anticipation that Star Wars would be similar.

instead, it was a goofy cartoon.


42 posted on 07/02/2026 7:25:56 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: nickcarraway

He was absolutely right about Star Wars. It’s the most overrated film in my adult lifetime.


43 posted on 07/02/2026 7:38:22 PM PDT by FlatulusMaximus
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To: nickcarraway

Harlan loved Babylon 5. He was a creative consultant on the show, appeared in three episodes and wrote two. He and JMS were so close that Strazinski became the Executor of Ellison’s estate.


44 posted on 07/02/2026 7:56:41 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: FlatulusMaximus; nickcarraway
It's important to note that one of Lucas's MAJOR influences were the Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon serials of the '40s (hence the vintage wipes between scenes in Star Wars). He was aiming to recapture those heroic adventures, while adding a bit of high tech (for the '70s) and a touch of mysticism -- on a fairly low budget. He wasn't really trying to advance "serious" science-fiction as much as he was paying homage, and updating, the "space operas" of his youth.
45 posted on 07/02/2026 8:03:53 PM PDT by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: FlatulusMaximus

My favorite thing about Star Wars was the Mel Brooks satire of it...Spaceballs...


46 posted on 07/02/2026 8:26:06 PM PDT by cgbg (Four seconds is all it takes to beat the brainwashing.)
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To: nickcarraway

When Ellison makes a billion on a movie, then he can talk, until then...


47 posted on 07/02/2026 8:29:53 PM PDT by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man, but it's okay... I wasn't married to it.)
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To: cgbg
My favorite thing about Star Wars was the Mel Brooks satire of it...Spaceballs...

"Moichandising!"


48 posted on 07/02/2026 8:35:18 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: nickcarraway

Always agreed that Star Wars was pretty basic space opera - stretching it into sequels was like scraping a little butter over too much toast (to paraphrase Bilbo Baggins). I agreed with little else Ellison ever said - he was an angry proto-communist loon who occasionally told a good story. If he were alive today he would be protesting ICE and voting DSA. I used to have a couple books that collected his 70’s TV critic columns from some left-wing news rag - they were funny but profane and terribly leftish. His SF stories were often good but filled with miserable SOBs like himself.


49 posted on 07/02/2026 8:37:32 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: cgbg

And don’t forget Hardware Wars....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YvZc28xBXE

You’ll laugh. You’ll cry. You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye.


50 posted on 07/02/2026 8:37:35 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: nickcarraway

Harlan called Rush “Rush Limburger”. He was a mean SOB.


51 posted on 07/02/2026 8:38:50 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant (The “They recognized Him in the breaking of the Bread”)
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To: nickcarraway

Boring hack.


52 posted on 07/02/2026 8:42:45 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nickcarraway

I attended a talk by Ellison in conjunction with a screening of the film A Boy and His Dog. He was pissed that the last line of the movie was not in his original story. In truth, the last line of the movie is just about the best thing in it (though Susanne Benton isn’t too shabby).


53 posted on 07/02/2026 9:29:10 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: ClearCase_guy

What hasn’t harlan Ellison complained about


54 posted on 07/02/2026 10:23:54 PM PDT by struggle
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To: Codeflier

#11 I remember seeing Suzanne Somers on the Tonight Show saying she did not like it.

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55 posted on 07/02/2026 11:18:04 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Making money now. Still want much more.)
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To: GOPJ

Hitler Painted Roses.

Personal favorite.


56 posted on 07/02/2026 11:33:34 PM PDT by Salamander ( Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRDa)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, among many


57 posted on 07/03/2026 3:12:27 AM PDT by montag813
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To: dfwgator
Spaceballs is the last film that I would expect to predict the future, but this happened in 2022


58 posted on 07/03/2026 6:44:31 AM PDT by jmcenanly (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ― Winston)
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To: Quentin Quarantino

> I remember being disappointed upon discovering what a bitter prick he was.

I got stuck with him on the elevator at Iguancon II and nearly died of laughter at his rant. He got mad at me there because I was laughing, but I refused to address his rant and start another argument. We had already argued at his little writing booth exhibit and it was great fun because evidently I was making a novel (to him) argument opposing the ERA and he had to think before ranting, which also infuriated him.

It didn’t really change my opinion of his writing, which I still enjoy. This also infuriated him, and he belittled my character for buying his books, to which I said “to paraphrase Eleanor Roosevelt, I don’t need your consent to enjoy your works”.

Iguanacon II was the highlight of 1978 for me. Iggy2 was probably one of the sexiest conventions ever, with incredible speculative forays into literature, science, gaming, engineering, film, cosplay, politics, and of course the all time high points of sexy nude women organically embedding in science fiction (critical for a 16yo guy).


59 posted on 07/03/2026 10:39:52 AM PDT by no-s (Caja del Orador, Caja de Papeletas, Caja del Jurado, Caja de Cartuchos ... ya sabes cómo va...)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Exactly. Star Wars and Star Trek are space fantasy, not science fiction. There's no science involved at all. I remember Ray Bradbury balking at his Martian Chronicles being called Science Fiction, saying that only one chapter - the post-nuclear war scenes in "There Will Come Soft Rains" qualifies as true Sci-Fi. The rest was planetary fantasy.

An example of true Sci-Fi (albeit with a fantastical element) would be Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, in that most of what we see is at least somewhat grounded in what was thought possible in computer science and space exploration, as well as Clarke's speculation that sufficiently advanced (alien) technology seems like supernatural magic to others.

I'm generally not a fan of Star Wars-type space fantasy just as I don't care for any other fantasy genre, while actual Sci-Fi can be interesting when well-made.

Of course, any of the above are preferable to most of today's Box Office Bilge, 90% of which is based on comic books.

60 posted on 07/03/2026 12:11:42 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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