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The Victory Garden Thread - May, 2026
May 1, 2026 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 05/01/2026 6:24:57 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The MONTHLY Victory Garden Thread is a gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Victory Garden Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to/removed from our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a MONTH Ping List, but we DO post to the thread all throughout the month. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: cowgirlcandy; deerproof; food; fritatta; garden; gardening; howard; selfsufficiency; selfsufficient; victory; vidaliaonionsauce; vitaminc; wasps
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To: Qiviut

No hummers for me yet, but the feeders are very busy with Red Breasted Grossbeak and as of 2 days ago, the Baltimore and Orchard Orioles.

Grape jelly will be on the grocery list for a few weeks to come. :)


181 posted on 05/07/2026 2:32:25 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Paul R.

check Lowe’s, they often have them.


182 posted on 05/07/2026 3:56:31 PM PDT by vis a vis
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To: vis a vis

I’ve been by there (Lowes) a couple times, but, no luck yet. It is right next door to the Wal Mart.

The thing about Lowes is that their prices on most items are so high now, and the bargains so few, that I don’t just stop in “to see what’ cookin’ “ like I used to. Plus, the flyers are online, so, THOSE specials and sales I don’t need to stop in to find out about. Every once in a while something very good (sale) pops up, tho’. Last year, or maybe 2 years ago, it was garden soil, in the spring. I do still have a “Lowes” credit card that gets me 5% off in-store purchases, though the rewards arrangement has changed due to a new card provider.


183 posted on 05/07/2026 7:22:01 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: MomwithHope

Hahaha! You must have more “stab friendly” cottage cheese containers. I tried using a screwdriver a few years back, and it buckled the container. Probably a slightly thinner container, and / or a bit different grade of plastic was the difference. But hey, if it works for you, it works for you! :-)


184 posted on 05/07/2026 7:27:30 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.; Diana in Wisconsin; All

Has anyone tried adding table salt to a marinade like apple cider vinegar or citrus soda, for the purpose of tenderizing game meat and hopefully reducing some of the “gamey” taste? Did it work well? How much salt did you add?

Having a surplus of boiled raccoon for the chickens already, I decided to butcher this last one, this morning. I’m not well practiced at butchering anything this size, so, it was a bit tedious. These suckers are built pretty tough.

The only other time we tried cooking raccoon, it was just that - sort of tough and rather gamey. But, IIRC, wifey just tried to fry it up like chicken. So, I decided to try marinating it both to tenderize it and to reduce the gamey taste. 7-up works pretty well for me as a marinade, though I prefer club soda, for catfish out of typical (decent) pond water. As it turned out, we have a 2L bottle of “Sam’s” “Twist Up” I was going to try out for that purpose — marinating catfish. So, I figured I’d give it a shot here.

I’ve also read many times of making up a salt brine to marinade game meats, but I’ve usually shied away from that as potentially causing a very salty taste. Wifey sometimes uses apple cider vinegar and a few spices, such as for chicken “adobo” style, and her pork “humba”, but that adds a very distinct flavor from the vinegar. (It is ok in moderation only, IMO.)

It dawned on me that a citrus soda like “Twist-Up” with some salt added should increase the ionic properties of the liquid. Sure enough, Brave Search turned up:

https://abc11.com/post/basf-science-club-carbonation-salt-and-soda-experiment/2310473/?userab=kabc_content_recs-577*variant_c_trending-2482%2Cotv_web_content_rec-539*variant_c_trending-2268%2Cotv_search_page_design_unification-546*variant_a_control-2299%2Cabcn_popular_reads_exp-542*variant_b_7days_filter-2288

Which brings me back to my opening questions. :-)

At present I have the meat marinating in Twist-Up soda only. I can add salt when I refresh the marinade in the morning, then cook some up maybe tomorrow for supper. (Yes, I have a backup just in case... Heheh!)

Thanks, All!


185 posted on 05/07/2026 8:01:36 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.
Brave also came back with:

Yes, adding table salt (sodium chloride) to 7-Up changes its ionic properties by significantly increasing the ionic strength and altering the activity coefficients of the dissolved ions.

Ionic Strength Increase: Table salt dissociates into sodium ($Na^+$) and chloride ($Cl^-$) ions, which increases the total concentration of ions in the solution. This change in ionic strength directly affects the activity of hydrogen ions ($H^+$), which can cause a measurable shift in the pH of the soda, typically lowering it due to changes in ion activity rather than a chemical reaction that produces acid.

Nucleation and Solubility: The added salt grains provide nucleation sites on their rough surfaces, which allows the supersaturated carbon dioxide to escape more rapidly as bubbles. While this is a physical release of gas, it alters the equilibrium of the carbonic acid system within the liquid.

Existing Composition: 7-Up already contains sodium (from sodium citrate and sodium benzoate), typically ranging from 12 to 100 milligrams per 12-ounce can. Adding table salt introduces additional chloride ions, which are not naturally present in significant amounts in most sodas, thereby changing the specific ionic profile and taste balance of the beverage.

186 posted on 05/07/2026 8:09:30 PM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.

cottage cheese containers, will post a pic as I have a few to do today.
raccoon - if its for the chickens I would just put the meat in a crock pot. No marinade needed. I have heard raccoon is tough. Hubby had an uncle who ate it and said you have to parboil it. I think a crockpot would be easier. I don’t think salt will help. If you are going to eat it I would go with spices after its been in the crockpot. Cooking on high heat will just toughen it up more, a simmer would be better. I can’t advise on salt. Live long and prosper!


187 posted on 05/08/2026 5:27:35 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: FRiends; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; Pete from Shawnee Mission

‘Dark Earth’ discovered in the Amazon.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4378242/posts

Also, see Post #9 for lots of links on this subject!


188 posted on 05/08/2026 6:05:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Paul R.

Coon and Kraut in the Crock Pot:

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/228630/slow-cooker-pork-and-sauerkraut/

Substitute your raccoon meat in this dish after you drain and rinse it well of all the soda. You’ll be cooking it low and slow for 8 hours, so plan ahead. And, yes. I have made this before. We don’t eat much raccoon anymore, which I’m thankful for, LOL!

20+ Best Raccoon Recipes for Adventurous Wild Game Cooks

https://www.backwoodsbound.com/zracoon.html


189 posted on 05/08/2026 6:21:57 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: MomwithHope

Thanks - yes, the bigger racoon I gutted, cut off the head (which recently had a bit of lead added to it*), and dumped Rolandette the Raccoon**, major organs except the intestines, and water into a 15 qt. pot, covered it, and simmer it for 4 hours. The chickens will eat pretty much all of it except the fur and bones.

As for trying it ourselves, per Brave Search, salt does improve the tenderizing marinade’s effectiveness:

https://search.brave.com/search?q=does+salt+marinade+tenderize+tough+meat%3F&summary=1&conversation=090f01880bc1b31e1c695ee19aa8ccadaba6

Anyway, yes, I’ve divided the meat into roughly 16 oz. portions to experiment with slow cooking - maybe I’ll try one or two ~ 8 oz. portions grilled, to see just how well the marinating worked. (I want to marinate anyway to defeat the gamey taste.) Another thing to try with slow cooked meat tidbits is raccoon chili. I’ve not decided which recipe to try. :-)

If hamburger or pork steak was still under $1 / lb. on sale, I probably would not be trying this... :-(

OTOH, I am a bit curious. :-)

*All of the .22 pellet “should” have stayed inside the skull, but I’m not keen on biting a piece of lead pellet. It’s too close to “biting the bullet” for me!

**Reference to Warren Zevon. ;-)


190 posted on 05/08/2026 8:13:39 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Interesting - thanks!


191 posted on 05/08/2026 8:14:58 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.

No traps were tripped last night. Progress(!), but I know the big possum must still be around.


192 posted on 05/08/2026 8:17:34 AM PDT by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.

I ate squirrel stroganoff at a friends once long ago, did spit out 3 tiny buckshot. Squirrel was delicious.


193 posted on 05/08/2026 8:38:54 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Paul R.
Ok just took some pics. I have a few more to do. Screwdriver, not too thick but long, so you can go through the bottom in a straight line. I place the container on the edge of a work table and hold firm with just a little hanging off the edge. Just enough for the screwdriver to clear. I puncture in the outside ring. The center is too thick and can crack. Easy one jab and turn. I usually do at least 5 holes. 0-02-01-5656995bf65f00987cd78cd9224ad8e93e8693685596b7effded9757e5f69dcf-b1da1345806108be 0-02-01-197e4024b0516ddd724ba827d491e443194bf952536cb5d6546c486ff2dd930e-e07dd7af8638b6d7 0-02-01-6eb481206f0d3a828210846bc10d57ac20d8d8e66b67704dce186fe1596d892a-1551fc6e1548dcc0
194 posted on 05/08/2026 8:53:35 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope

Remind me what you use these containers for, please. (And thank you!)


195 posted on 05/08/2026 9:16:11 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Augie

Sounds like you are wise to the pitfalls of pain treatment. Add prayer. I once read an essay about a woman who had fallen off a ladder while repairing the rain gutters and messed up her back. She said she prayed prayers every day of thanks to God for creating her back and for all the ways her back had held her up and helped her move thoughout her life, and then asking for healing, envisioning these things as she prayed. Eventually, healing came about.

When I had severe pinched nerve back pain from structural erosion due to aging, I tried her method, accompanied by daily hot baths followed by generous applications of IcyHot. It took two years. Dried out my skin somewhat, but that’s another story, and now my back is pain free, thanks to God. Got to start on my shoulders now...


196 posted on 05/08/2026 9:28:22 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. --DJT)
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To: FamiliarFace
I am in west Michigan. And I start nearly everything indoors. The cottage cheese containers are a midway pot before they go in the ground. I fill them with my garden soil and it gives a couple more weeks for the plants and roots to grow. Some of my tomato plants now. They go from a peat pellet to a larger container with garden soil to the cottage cheese containers. They are all out on the patio now with everything else, and a plastic sheet over them for overnight. Just did that yesterday. The cottage cheese containers are a perfect size at least for where we are at. 0-02-01-0b3617cd2b3447b4b4882856e87de959c25af4b5c8896d51c80b10b17343aeca-dc800a6d8fccb354
197 posted on 05/08/2026 9:38:25 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Paul R.

I frequent the clearance area in the outside garden. They mark alot of stuff down this time of year to make room for the daily arrivals of new plants. I have scored some really great plants. They are not guaranteed but so what.....any competent gardener can keep them going. Alot of times they just need to be watered. I scored a gorgeous 8 gallon peony last week for %75 off.


198 posted on 05/08/2026 3:38:33 PM PDT by vis a vis
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To: MomwithHope

I love this photo! That caddy is a keeper, too!


199 posted on 05/08/2026 6:12:00 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace

I have 7 or 8 old caddys. Nothing better for moving a bunch of plants in and out in the spring, no mess watering and carrying them to the garden.


200 posted on 05/08/2026 6:37:40 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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