They haven't built it yet but here's the picture they offer. A floating (hopefully not sinking) city.
Do the toilets work. ? The Navy may need to take notes.
LGBQ, etc approved ?
They should NEVER say UNSTOPPABLE!!! BEYOND STUPID....BAD LUCK, TOO!
Don’t have anything against them, not my thing, but the math is, sooner or later one of these gigantic things is going to sink, and not just off shore like in Italy, but truly sink... and what’s that going to look like?
Some of the biggest ones have about 10,000 people onboard between customers and staff...
according to the internet this ship “Hero of the Seas” is 250,000 deadweight tons
For comparison, the USS Gerald Ford is 100,000 DWT.
They haven't built it yet but here's the picture they offer. A floating (hopefully not sinking) city.
The cruise industry attracts all the hood rats that can't pass thru TSA Screening due to active warrants, legal problems, back child support, criminal activity, drugs, etc....
Lost my grandmother on the Yarmouth Castle Cruise ship. On ship fire.
Business is all about scaling.
In my opinion, capitalism, communism, and socialism are all methods of scaling. They’re systems for delivering necessities, luxuries, and progress to an entire population.
Capitalism is decentralized and self-funding. It routes resources to people who know how to use them to scale whatever it is that they’re enthusiastic about. If no one wants something, it the resources won’t be there to pay for scaling it up.
Another thing capitalism is really good at is recycling failure. We learn from failure; the harder we fail, the more we learn. Under other systems, people who fail either (1) become pariahs, or (2) are promoted without learning anything. That’s a double-barreled disadvantage.
Strip away all the other matters; freedom, morality, justice, etc., and what you’re left with is “which system is better at scaling value?” In an economic sense, that’s the whole story.
When loaded with crew, passengers, and all they need, the center of gravity has to be below the waterline, provided the line is painted at the right level. Otherwise, the ship will flip over. With such a huge superstructure, I have always wondered how they achieve that.
I’d need a month on that ship to fully enjoy it.
back in the early 2000’s i spent a week on the brand new Navigator of the Seas and barely experienced much of what the ship had to offer...
All “modern” cruise ships are severely top-heavy because passengers pay more for a cabin above the waterline. The only thing that keeps the shiny side up is the maneuvering or azipod thrusters. They ‘blow’ sideways to keep the boat from capsizing.
Just last year, the 6,700 passenger cruise ship MSC World Europa lost all her engines at once. It’s a 223-foot tall ship with gross tonnage of 153,000 and a 30-foot draft. A calm sea saved was all that saves their bacon for the 19 hours it took to get part of the engines restarted.
Children a on a cruise ship. I’ll pass.
Per AI:
Carnival Cruise Line consistently leads in reported crime statistics, including sexual assaults, rapes, and physical assaults with serious injury, holding the top spot for industry-wide crime incidents in Q3 2025 and accounting for 59% of reported physical assaults since 2022. Royal Caribbean also ranks highly in raw crime numbers, leading in Q4 2025 and Q2 2025 for sexual crimes, though per capita rates vary significantly due to its larger passenger volume.
Regarding illness and sanitation, Norwegian Cruise Line ships like the Breakaway and MSC Cruises vessels have frequently appeared on the CDC’s list of the dirtiest ships with scores below 86, facing issues like food infestation, unsafe temperatures, and crew members working while sick. Specific incidents include the Costa Concordia disaster and multiple norovirus outbreaks affecting Princess Cruises and Celebrity Cruises, which have also struggled with inadequate medical facilities and improper body storage.
Maintenance and mechanical failures are frequently cited for NCL (Norwegian Cruise Line), which has reported propulsion issues and unsafe conditions leading to lawsuits, and MSC, which faced a 2019 dock collision in Venice and a failed inspection scoring as low as 67 points in 2024. Holland America and Celebrity have also been noted for outdated safety equipment, inconsistent emergency procedures, and poor outbreak management, with the Zaandam incident in 2020 leaving stranded passengers without proper medical care.
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Meh, to each his or her own — but since I dropped a different comment on cruises a bit ago, allow me to extend and expand my remarks.
First, I love being out on the water. I’m not rich enough - nor do I have the free-time - to own a proper ocean goer. I *used to* have a fairly low end boat kept in a slip on Lake Michigan, but that was an absolute money hole. Nowadays, just a little fishing boat with an outboard and a trailer... but ocean > (big/great) lake > river/pond/small lake. I’ve accepted - for now :-) - even the bottom end is simply the most cost-effective, since I lack the budget room to waste money on higher ranks. Though, I *do* enjoy teasing my kids — “Go ahead, tick me off... your inheritance will cover a nice cabin cruiser!”
Second, though — and I’ll thank my wife for this - I do enjoy taking cruises. A boat like this? Skeptical. I also hate the silly “onboard activities” and generally - though exceptions always exist - not a bit fan of “port call excursions”. A few are great, most are bad, a few are complete grifts. The missus and I have reached a happy medium where we usually pick a few we can agree on.
Third/ultimately? It’s the rare trip where I don’t even bother bringing my laptop. A true chance to completely unplug and ignore the world. Most cruise ships? The on-board restaurants are actually quite good. And if I decide to grab a bloody mary for brunch? I can do that, too. Love my grandkids - but when we do big family cruises? They go off to their entertainment parks; I get to read a book by a pool sipping on a gimlet.
Don’t get me wrong - if I’m doing a vacation to visit a place? A cruise is NOT the way to do it. But if it’s the annual vacation without a destination in particular?
I completely understand why many people hate it... but for me? Here’s my money. Now leave me alone. I’ll sip boat drinks, lounge about, enjoy just sitting on a balcony with a book, and the only thing I have to *plan* is maybe dinner. Maybe I’ll throw some cards at a casino. Maybe I’ll saunter to a bar to watch a game.
Let me repeat - all the things people hate about cruises/cruise ships? They’re not wrong. Lord knows Jimmy Buffett wouldn’t approve, but it’s the closest my life and responsibility’s allow me to that escapism fantasy.
Will it have laundry fire problems?
I love the ignorant cruise ship comments from people that have never set foot on one.
It’s one of the most entertaining subjects on FR.
One of my favorites is “they’re all petri dishes!”
Hilarious. 😂
You’ll never get me on one of those TTT’s - (tempting terrorist targets)
Me neither. Until they can change the “character” of those who cruise, nah