Posted on 03/25/2026 6:49:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber
President Trump recently signed an Executive Order that expands U.S. production of glyphosate, a herbicide contained in commercial and domestic weed killers, such as Roundup.
Glyphosate has been rigorously tested in more than 2,000 studies, including the U.S. National Cancer Institute’s large Agricultural Health Study, and has been used by farmers and home gardeners for more than 50 years. Yet some environmental advocates and other groups contend it causes cancer, specifically non-Hodgkins Lymphoma.
This outcry stems primarily from a 2015 hazard assessment by the International Agency for Research on Cancer’s (IARC), a semi-autonomous agency of the World Health Organization, which concluded that glyphosate “probably” causes cancer.
That finding has also fueled mass tort litigation against Bayer/Monsanto, the company that produces glyphosate, resulting in thousands of lawsuits and billions of dollars in settlements. It should be pointed out that IARC looks at hazard (the potential to cause cancer under any circumstances) rather than risk (the likelihood of cancer occurring under real-world exposure levels)—leading to classifications that many experts feel cause unnecessary public alarm.
The IARC decision has been criticized by scientists and regulatory bodies on several grounds. First, it lacked transparency: meetings were by invitation only, and members were told not to discuss proceedings externally. Second, it excluded key studies finding no cancer link—most notably the National Cancer Institute’s Agricultural Health Study of 54,000 farm workers, which found no significant association. When omitted from combined analyses, the glyphosate-cancer relationship grew significantly; a Reuters investigation found that many other null-result studies were also edited out. Third, conflicts of interest tainted the panel: Christopher Portier, a special IARC advisor, reportedly signed a lucrative consulting contract with law firms suing Monsanto shortly after the report’s release. The animal data fared no better: Statistician Robert Tarone testified before Congress that IARC cherry-picked positive
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“environmental advocates and other groups”
I tend towards organic vegetables and grass-fed beef. That’s a personal choice. I’m glad we have options at the grocery store.
As for prior beliefs, I don’t side with either corporations or environmentalists.
I’ve read that the EPA assumes (or assumed) that relationships run through the origin. So, if they have one X,Y data point, say concentration and harm, they ASSUME a straight line through the origin. That seems reasonable, no concentration suggests no harm. However, that is just an assumption and could be wrong for several reasons.
While too much selenium is toxic, a little is good for you. While too much of an herbicide might correlate with a particular disease, absence of the herbicide probably does not mean absence of that disease.
In farm country, we just buy the real thing, not watered down consumer Roundup.
It kills buckthorn like no other product. Use PPE, spray on calm days, it’s the best weed killer out there.
What BS is this?
I use it carefully where necessary, but I dxnm sure don’t bathe in it!
>> What America needs is a spray on lawyercide
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Hardly. I use the ACS. Studies do not show it to be deadly. The problem is when you do not use your proper safety ware. that help you. Using it around children when in your yard. No. There is billions set aside as this is the problem with American courts. Look at Red # 2, I think is the product. BPA for bottles Ridiculous.
Spare me. Red dye is no comparison and the ACS is an industry shill organization.
Nope...RoundUp ditched the Glyphosate last year or the year before (they went “Diquat”):
“Active Ingredients:
Triclopyr, triethylamine salt ... 2.50%
Fluazifop-P-butyl ... 2.00%
Diquat dibromide ... 1.50%”
I switched to the Tractor Supply Glyphosate about 4 years ago...much cheaper. I have parts of 14 acres that need weed control.
Yeah. The ACS is a shill/ Spare me.
Come on, pal: https://www.amazon.com/Concentrate-Glyphosate-Gallon-Systemic-Herbicide/dp/B007XZ84O4
And yes, they are. Heavily funded.
that roundup weed and grass killer is “fake” roundup sold for an exorbitant price in big box stores ... all of the big box lawn chemicals are pre-diluted and are mostly water and are ridiculously expensive for anyone with more than a postage-sized lot ...
here’s examples of the real deal roundup glysophate:
https://www.zoro.com/roundup-non-selective-vegetation-killer-25-gal-roundup320/i/G5564785/
https://www.google.com/search?q=roundup+promax+ingredients&oq=roundup+promax+ingredients
https://diypestcontrol.com/roundup-pro-concentrate
https://www.google.com/search?q=roundup+pro+condentrate+ingredients
btw, it’s way cheaper to buy super concentrated generic glysophate from a farm supply store and dilute it oneself rather than buy roundup-branded glysophate and/or the pre-diluted stuff sold in hardware stores ... actual farmers don’t buy their farm chemicals from home depot, lowes, or ace hardware ...
If used properly there are no issues. If you douse it on exposed skin, then there are problems. The Red dye banned in the US is still used in Canada.
Use protective clothing and don’t douse yourself and it’s fine.
“ I have used RoundUp for years but I don’t feel like it works like it used too.”
What’s labeled Roundup in retail stores isn’t Roundup anymore !!!!!
It doesn’t have glyphosate !!!
They still call it Roundup which I think is a scam.
You can buy glyphosate (which is what Roundup was for decades), but it has a different name.
Many, many studies show the dangers to those who haven’t been dousing their skin with it.
Yeah, I buy the “Tractor Supply” generic version and mix. (Way cheaper). I forgot about the farmer/”Pro” versions that “RoundUp” has...all that Lowe’s/Home Depot/Ace has is the “Diquat” kinda lame “homeowner version”. A company local to FR HQ has it available too:
https://www.montereylawngarden.com/about/
Thanks.
we have a local farm supply chain called “Wheelers” that sells ag chemicals at rock bottom prices ... and then there’s Agfinity down the road that sells fertilizer and such by the truck and tanker load ...
That won't stop ambulance chasing lawyers and greedy people hoping to cash in from suing.
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