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I've Waited 40 Years to Dunk on Phil Collins About This
PJ Media ^ | 1/23/2026 | Athena Thorne

Posted on 01/24/2026 9:21:32 AM PST by simpson96

The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine. In this case, it's been forty years since British establishment-pop workhorse Phil Collins incurred a young Athena's wrath with his band Genesis's mockery of the greatest president (up until then, anyway) of modern times.

f you're Gen X like me, your adolescence was happily enhanced by the heyday of old-school MTV. The concept was brand-new then: music videos by the hottest pop stars, 24/7, hosted by the original veejays — Alan Hunter, Nina Blackwood, Martha Quinn, Mark Goodman, and of course, "Triple J" J.J. Jackson. It was innovation, novelty, hormonal giddiness, and rock-n-roll!

I was not really keyed into politics at that age — I still loved America in a general way, including every president, but back then, we all still had basic values in common. Nevertheless, I could still tell that Ronald Reagan was an exceptional president, head and shoulders above the others I had known in my short life.

So when a British loudmouth, who was obviously a bit too high on his own supply, thought he somehow had standing to come on the brilliant American invention, MTV, and mock one of the greatest Americans I'd ever seen, it didn't sit too well with me. Who the hell is this guy who thinks he's so great that he can belittle the Gipper? I fumed.

In case you're not sure what I'm referring to, it was the music video for the single "Land of Confusion" by Collins's band Genesis that triggered me:

As you can see, the video is wildly disrespectful of the most effectual, momentous president I'd ever seen (at least, back then). It portrays him as a senile buffoon, overreacting to world events that he is utterly impotent at handling. It also mocked his beloved wife

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KEYWORDS: athenathorne; genesis; landofconfusion; music; nitwit; philcollins
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To: simpson96

Oh hell, just another one of his sins. Let it go that you might get to heaven, or would you prefer the current satisfaction, before the one who wad crucified for your own failings?

I pray he gets/got right with God and that I have duch an opportunity, now and at the hour of my death.

Challenge sin to protect the youngins, certainly!


21 posted on 01/24/2026 10:12:53 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: nickcarraway

Correct. This is mucha doo about nothing.


22 posted on 01/24/2026 10:13:02 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Yardstick

OTOH, the video does feature a pretty unflattering puppet of Collins himself, so he’s not just dishing it but also taking it to some degree. I’ll give him some credit for that.


23 posted on 01/24/2026 10:17:40 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: simpson96

The writer should get some therapy, maybe she can salvage some of what is left of her life.


24 posted on 01/24/2026 10:19:46 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: brownsfan

+ 1

Funny how folks here can Pop off with their opinions,however entertainers aren’t allowed to.
Funny that.


25 posted on 01/24/2026 10:24:54 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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To: AbolishCSEU

Well, it’s a good point and I’m sure true but the entertainment industry, like the arts, is like an iceberg.

Most of the ones in those industries don’t make it but are mostly all left wingers.

They don’t get the big bucks but still believe the left wing garbage.

My thoughts; they’re not very bright people who follow the pack to ‘fit in’, follow trends without much thought, conformists, not deep thinkers, clique joiners, not interested in the truth...


26 posted on 01/24/2026 10:25:58 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: nickcarraway
Thanks for saving me the rant on how Genesis had no idea until the video was already out.

I don't know if it's still true but Phil has been listed as the wealthiest pop star on Earth - which means nothing without the health to enjoy it.

Did not know about the Alamo collection. Does he have Pee Wee's bicycle from the basement? (Just kidding)

One other British music icon has a very American hobby:

RodStewartTrainModeller

27 posted on 01/24/2026 10:27:57 AM PST by MikelTackNailer (La la la, la la.)
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To: nickcarraway

+1 Good post.


28 posted on 01/24/2026 10:28:05 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: cnsmom

SMH. This is all made up, because of some puppet group. Phil Collins has nothing to do with that video, and he never made another comment about Ronald Reagan.


29 posted on 01/24/2026 10:28:52 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: George from New England

It was the puppet people, Spitting Image, they made the video.


30 posted on 01/24/2026 10:29:23 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: kosciusko51

Thanks.


31 posted on 01/24/2026 10:31:05 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Theoria

Theoria, I am with you.


32 posted on 01/24/2026 10:33:24 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Buffalo Bob

I appreciate your post.


33 posted on 01/24/2026 10:36:02 AM PST by BipolarBob (These violent delights have violent ends.)
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To: simpson96

That was mild. I remember “when two tribes go to war” by F*gg*ts go to Hollywood which depicted Reagan and whatever Soviet General Secretary of the day it was (before he soon croaked) wrestling. As was typical of British Leftists they acted like the two sides were morally equivalent.

Uhh no. Wrong.

Totalitarian communism was worse in every possible way. Which is why they lost the cold war a few years after that idiotic video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO1HC8pHZw0&list=RDpO1HC8pHZw0&start_radio=1


34 posted on 01/24/2026 10:36:51 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: Political Junkie Too
"The puppets that were used on Land of Confusion were from a very popular British TV series at the time called Spitting Image."

Exactly. That show aired for 18 seasons, and made fun of just about everyone. She is nuts, and to hold that self-induced grudge for 40 years? Bizarre.

35 posted on 01/24/2026 10:38:49 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Yardstick

Why do people “worship” others who have unique, contemporary marketable skills? Like cinema actors, musicians, athletes,movie directors? Why are they given unchallenged license to spout off on issues they have no demonstrable skills in?
Pity Phil Collins, the curse of death is swallowing him. But he is(was) basically irrelevant.


36 posted on 01/24/2026 10:41:13 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: RummyChick; simpson96; Disambiguator; George from New England; Buffalo Bob; Theoria; MrRelevant; ...

This writer did not do her research.

First of all, the words to this song were written by Genesis guitarist Mike Rutherford, although I think it’s a stretch to read any criticism of Reagan into it.

Spitting Image was a British satirical puppet show. After seeing their puppet of the band, they hired them to make the video, but there was no input, other than maybe what Spitting Image read into the song. It’s not like Phil Collins asked them to portray Reagan. And as Freeper Yardstick pointed out, the puppet of Phil Collins wasn’t very flattering.

There is no evidence that Phil Collins was some kind of lefty. I can find no evidence he made any comment about Ronald Reagan, or anything else for that matter. Surely, if he were the virtue signaling rock star, he would have said something.

In the U.K. he is often bashed for being a Tory/conservative. A lot of that is because he threatened to leave the U.K. if Tony Blair was elected in 1997. But for the most part, it seems like Phil Collins is not that political, and never made statements on politics.

Also, his main hobby is the Alamo. He amassed the largest private collection of Alamo material in the world, then donated it to a museum in 2014. What kind of rockstar, let alone a British one, is into the Alamo? I don’t think that’s a hobby that leftists, or anti-Americans would sanction.

This author does not provide a shred of evidence that the video was based on what Phil Collins actually felt.


37 posted on 01/24/2026 10:52:21 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Getready

I can see why people admire the super talented creatives in the art & entertainment world. What gets me is the near total ideological capture of that world by the Left. It’s amazing this country isn’t in worse shape than it is given how many of our institutions the left has taken over.


38 posted on 01/24/2026 11:08:26 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

Because too many people on the Right openly disparage the Arts and people who engage in them.


39 posted on 01/24/2026 11:10:10 AM PST by Borges
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To: nickcarraway
Well done.

I must have confused Collin's with Lemmy Kilmister as Alamo aficionados.

40 posted on 01/24/2026 11:15:18 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal !)
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