Im totally pro ICE. I watched the video. Its problematic. I hope the guy that was in front of the vehicle has body cam footage.
I think this is going to turn into a chit storm.
My personal attitude is that if this woman had just stayed home and cleaned her house this morning she’d still be with us. Going down and starting chit up at enforcement sites puts you in the danger zone. Unintended consequences can happen.
I watched the video a couple of times. It looked to me like the ICE agent by the left headlight in front of the car was in danger once the car moved.
The only question is was the woman deliberately trying to run the agent down, or was she just trying to escape? Either way, it is reasonable to say that the agent was in danger.
The stupid woman should have just stayed put, and followed instructions.
Yeah, this is a tough call .
The shooting was 100% legally justified but , given the circumstances, there are legitimate questions over whether the shooting was absolutely necessary
I’m on the side of the officer 100% and I want to see the body cam footage from his perspective
A shooting does not have to look good, to be good. She used a force that could likely cause great bodily harm or death to effect an escape. If the ice agent had jumped out of the way, and they later arrested her, would she have been charged with assault on an officer with a deadly weapon? If the answer is yes, then the shooting is good.
It appears to me that she was attempting to just drive away. I can see why a law enforcement officer could have thought she was trying to hit him, but it would have been wiser of him to not stand where he could possibly be hit.
Not blaming him for shooting, but pretty clear indication of lack of proper training.
slow motion clearly shows she started driving forward while the officer was still in front of the vehicle. That makes it attempted murder and a good shot.
“”””” I watched the video. Its problematic. I hope the guy that was in front of the vehicle has body cam footage.””””
Did you watch this video at .25 speed? You don’t need a body cam.
“”””Video of shooting..
https://x.com/jimstinson/status/2008966357250089341 “”””
This video has a much better angle than the one posted at GP.
Be sure to play at a slow speed.
There is nothing problematic about the video. She struck the Ice officer with her car and deserved to be shot!!!
I liked your post.
“My personal attitude is that if this woman had just stayed home ...”
I watched and listened to the video. The officers told her to “get out of the car” at least three times as they approached her. So, I’ll say: If this woman had just gotten out of the car, she would have been all right.
Furthermore. If she had just stayed in the car and turned off her engine, she would have been all right.
Finally, what has been left out? Why did they feel the need to approach her car and no other car? I think she did something that made her stand out.
Perhaps she yelled at the officers. Maybe she was maneuvering her car when all other cars were stopped as directed. Probably both of those things applied here.
She had a wife. She probably verbally abused the officers. She was probably disobeying orders to remain parked in her car. She refused repeated orders to step out of the car. She tried to drive away despite an officer approaching her car from the front. She thought she was special and morally superior. The rules did not apply to her.