Linux-Ubuntu

12/26/25 | Self

[eyeamok]

I have win10 on a couple computers and it turns out they can't be updated to win11

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ubuntu

[eyeamok]

I have win10 on a couple computers and it turns out they can't be updated to win11, which is fine I hate windows. I only needed windows to run a few programs for work, namely QuickbooksPro and UPS Worldship, neither work in Linux. I have Ubuntu installed on a couple of my laptops and have never had a problem. The last time I installed Ubuntu was a couple years ago and it was version 18... and have never had a problem, everything just worked right out of the box, but now I am retired and no longer need windows, so I took my 3 yr old Dell Optiplex that has win10 that can't be upgraded and wanted to install Ubuntu. The latest version is 24....but it would NOT install. After reading thru the forums I wasn't the only one having issues. I tried everything changing settings in CMOS but nothing worked so I downloaded an older version of Ubuntu 22... and it installed just fine but it did an update and broke a bunch of stuff then asked me if I wanted to upgrade to 24 that wouldn't install originally, so I did and it broke more things. Turns out they were still there just no link to them, some I had to delete and reinstall to get working. The software channel, settings page, control center,.... I managed to get everything back up like it should be before Ubuntu updated screwed it all up but thats because I am not new to linux, been using it for many years and NEVER have I had problems like this. The forums helped but the Ubuntu teck guys were useless and told me and a few others that we needed new SSD hard drives. That was NOT the answer, it is almost as if they hired a bunch of clowns that used to work for microsoft to start writing their code, and I would bet on it because in all these years Ubuntu never had this much stupid built in. Not sure what they were thinking but as far as I am concerned they screwed the pooch big time and refuse to admit it. So those looking to dump windows like I did, I don't think you will like the New Ubuntu as is, it isn't ready for prime time and won't be until they fire these idiots and do a complete re-write and go back to the way things were when it all Just Worked. The last version I installed with zero problems was 18 and it is still on their download site. but be careful when you do updates because the updates were created by the same idiots that screwed up the new version. If you computer literate and can follow instructions, all of it can be fixed in Terminal using command line but you will need to go thru a learning process to get the feel of using command line for stuff that used to work right out of the box. Not sure about any other flavors but I know Mint and most others use Ubuntu's Repositories, so you get Ubuntu code which in my opinion is really screwed up now. So sad to watch them go down this road to a slow suicide.

[ransomnote]

I’m suspicious about Microsoft’s interest in Canonical:
According to AI:

No, Ubuntu has not been purchased by Microsoft. However, there have been discussions and speculation about Microsoft acquiring Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu. Despite these rumors, Canonical remains an independent entity. Microsoft has integrated Ubuntu into its Windows operating system through the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL), allowing users to run Ubuntu alongside Windows, but this does not indicate ownership.

FWIW, I was using MINT 22.1 without problems until I fell for the suggestions that I should install it alongside Windows 10. Kids, do NOT try this at home!

I will repurpose an old laptop to run Mint in stand alone form. It WAS working. Not sure I will upgrade beyond 22.1 if it’s all gonna fall apart.

[It Aint Easy]

Microsoft has always been a tad over aggressive with the bootloader, IMHO. I don’t have time to deal with unexpected results of an update anymore so I leave computers as single purpose beyond virtualizing

[usconservative]

Sorry, hard to figure out what the exact problem is with your install based on your post, other than Ubuntu 24.04 wouldn't install on your computer for some reason, and you performed a bunch of changes to your computers settings.

I have Ubuntu 25.10 running just fine on a 13 year old AMD FX-8350 on a Samsung SSD, 32GB of memory, a WiFi network adapter and a low-end video card -- all of which Ubuntu 25.10 recognized at setup time and installed flawlessly.

I've run every version of Ubuntu since 14.04 on it with zero issues, and even upgraded the WiFi Network Adapter and SSD several times w/o issue.

Let me suggest the following:

1. Boot your computer and get into the hardware settings by pressing DEL or F2 during bootup.

2. Set your system back to its default settings.

3. Try re-installing Ubuntu again. Preferably with 24.04LTS.

[goodnesswins]

But, I should still do the updates, right? I just got Mint a few months ago.

[ransomnote]

But, I should still do the updates, right? I just got Mint a few months ago.
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I was lovin’ MINT. I just hate it once I installed ‘alongside’ Windows. Yes, I will go back to mint and yes, I will update it and if nothing else explodes on the web re MINT (negative news) I will continue to use mint and update it. Please don’t let me discourage anyone. I’m not advanced at all.

Mint was working great - love the programs. Prefer the platform. Only one or two legacy Windows programs holding me back from 100% Mint.

[Paal Gulli]

That’s one eye-catching headline, I must say.

[Bikkuri]

It’s possible (and easy after a few practice installs), but if you are a beginner at making dual-booting, it can be a real PITA.

Most important thing to remember, try to keep the OSs on a different hard drive, have Windows installed first, then, before you install Linux, physically unpluf the Windows HD (you don’t have to do it that way, but makes the install impossible to screw up).

Then, after the Linux is installed, plug the Windows HD back up, and update GRUB2. It will find all OSs installed on all HDs, and update your boot.

[dwg2]

I just installed Debian 13 on a HP laptop this evening. I am in the middle of finishing installing a few programs on it. I had no problems installing it, or getting things to work (so far). I myself prefer Debian, but have used Mint in the past. I do not dual boot. I run VMware if I want something for Windows.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I solved it by installing Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC that is supported until January 2032. Everything I need runs just fine.

Using Windows 10 Until 2032! - LTSC Installation & Demo

Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (English) x64 download

Microsoft Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2019 – Lifetime License $9.99

[ducttape45]

I am able to install Linux Mint alongside Windows, AS LONG AS I installed an older version first, say, 20.3. That's what I did with my laptop then I upgraded Linux.

For some reason, the newer Linux distros wipe out the boot sector and only allows Linux to boot. I found out the hard way when I tried to install 22.1 several months back.

However, what I did with my desktop PC is I

1. removed all HDDs/SSDs with Windows on them,
2. installed Linux on a separate drive,
3. mounted it inside the PC,
4. hooked up all the rest,
5. booted to Windows again and
6. used EasyBCD to put an entry for Linux in the Windows boot menu.

Yeah, that's kind of a unusual way to use Linux in the same PC as Windows, but it works for me.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You want this license for 2021, not the 2019 license.

https://flixeasy.com/product/microsoft-windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2021-lifetime-license-for-1-pc/

[ShadowAce]

[Poser]

Windows 10 will continue to work just as Windows 7 does. Linux Mint is good. Install to dual boot and you can decide which to use. I’ve got Win 10 running on one of our desktops and 11 dual booting on my main system. We have had no issues with Win 10 and plan to continue using it until the wheels fall off the machine it is running.

I’ve had a couple of issues, especially with trying to change the order of priority booting with Grub (Linux). I have been unable to get it the way I want, but I have good control over what boots now.

My BIOS now controls the priority and defaults to Win11. I just have to hit the F12 key when booting to get Linux to run.

I get free access to Microsoft Office 365 Pro version from my former employment (retired) and use some older Windows programs, some that go back as far as 1995 (Paintshop Pro for one). I run Access and some Windows finance software most days on the Win 11 machine. My wife runs Quickbooks Pro on the Win 10 machine. She would not look favorably on changing the OS she’s been using since the late 90s.

I love having multiple OS. More toys to play with.

[FreedomPoster]

BFL

[FlatulusMaximus]

Interesting. I don’t do a great deal with Mint, but never have had a problem. Command line can be intimidating, but I have a couple of forums where I’ve gotten good help.

[FlatulusMaximus]

Interesting. I don’t do a great deal with Mint, but never have had a problem. Command line can be intimidating, but I have a couple of forums where I’ve gotten good help.

[Bob434]

[[s. I only needed windows to run a few programs for work, namely QuickbooksPro and UPS Worldship, neither work in Linux]]

Ypu “MIGHT” be able to run both of those in eitger a virtual machine on linux, or in a windows emulator on linux, ie with wine, or some other newer programs thqt are said to be easier. (I thi k one name is winboat)

[Wilderness Conservative]

I’ve been Windows free for 10 years. No regrets.

[sauropod]

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