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To: Olog-hai

I saw the story yesterday. Isn’t there a separation between church and state? Since the scene was place of city property then it was in violation. Maybe I missed something.


15 posted on 12/23/2025 3:24:33 AM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: devane617

:: Since the scene was place of city property then it was in violation ::

In violation of what?


21 posted on 12/23/2025 4:07:23 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (The Democrats' official policy is now, “Hate, Violence and Murder". Change my mind.)
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To: devane617
I think you missed some things that do not make it at all a clear cut case of religious establishment.

1. The first amendment has been used in past Supreme Court rulings to override local actions that would "prohibit the free exercise thereof" of religious practices. This applies especially to public property, which is why you can for example stand in front of an abortion clinic, on a public sidewalk, and hand out flyers that cite the Christian Bible and Jesus Christ.

2. The display is paid for privately; there is no cost to the city.

3. A further question might be is it a permanent display or structure. We know it is only there for the Christmas and taken down afterward. So it's not as though the parking lot is being repurposed as a religious site.

4. Is this within the Mayor's powers?. Can she citing a city ordinance being violated? If so, she could order the Police Chief to take it down. In a small town in SC, good luck with that. But if there is no ordinance, then she is behaving as a self-appointed judge, and be ignored.

26 posted on 12/23/2025 5:14:45 AM PST by omni-scientist
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To: devane617

Yes, you’re missing the context of the non-existence of that phrase. Separation of church and state is not in the constitution or founding laws. It was taken from a personal letter sent to a specific religion because they feared the government would come after them. The left has run on this and been using these words to erase religion from society—pretty successfully i may add. Religion and government are to exist side by side. Not having one suppress the other.

I could look it up but my phone would close out this site. I think the small church was in Connecticut and the Founding Father I can’t recall at the moment.


27 posted on 12/23/2025 5:16:21 AM PST by Deepeasttx (Tired and Re-tired)
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To: devane617

You did. Show me where that is in the Constitution.

I’ll wait.


34 posted on 12/23/2025 5:44:11 AM PST by sauropod
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To: devane617
Isn’t there a separation between church and state?

No.

56 posted on 12/23/2025 8:11:57 AM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: devane617

There is no such “separation” in the US Constitution. Also, Article 1 Section 2 of the South Carolina Constitution reads almost exactly like the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

The only constitution I know of that says “the church is separated from the state” is the USSR’s constitution.


60 posted on 12/23/2025 8:35:30 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is goings to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: devane617

RENTERS OF SAID PROPERTY HAVE RIGHTS, ALSO.


61 posted on 12/23/2025 8:36:20 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: devane617

The State may not require that any particular religion be mandated by the government. How is that relevant to the creche scene? Implied is that the government may not proscribe any religion.


65 posted on 12/23/2025 9:52:14 AM PST by arthurus (l| covfeve |l vov)
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To: devane617
Isn’t there a separation between church and state?

No.

72 posted on 12/23/2025 5:49:10 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: devane617

There is no such thing as separation of church and state.


77 posted on 12/23/2025 7:37:14 PM PST by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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