Posted on 12/10/2025 8:50:08 AM PST by bluescape
“Why are you massively distorting what Charlie texted?”
I’m NOT. I didn’t say he texted ANYTHING. I’m saying ONE private text, made when he was angry, doesn’t mean he switched sides and wanted to see Israel destroyed and the Jews driven into the sea!
“Why do you think Charlie Kirk texted this”?
Because, as I said, he was pissed off at the moment he texted - a private text.
“Why does any of this mean everyone needs to close their minds and put on blindfolds?”
YOU ARE THE ONE CLOSING YOUR MIND! Tyler Robinson’s DNA was found at the shooting site. He has confessed. His OWN PARENTS turned him in! And you are insisting he didn’t do it? Or that he was trained by the French Foreign Legion? Or that the CIA was controlling him? Or that he wasn’t the shooter?
Hell, you nutjobs can’t even stick to ONE theory!
And now Candy Owens is attacking Erika?
Here is a fact: Charlie married Erica and not Candace and Candace needs to stop resenting that!
“Does the military consider itself involved when one of its members commits a crime?”
Nope! I spent much of my life in the military. When a military member commits a crime, we’d put him in jail. We never pretended we were also behind that crime!
I'm convnced you didn't take seriously Candace's own words "any time anywhere."
Since you don't take Candace at her word, neither should TPUSA.
No manipulation, just agreeing with the people who obviously have more integrity than Candace who lied multiple times about the assasination of Charlie Kirk, and her treatment of the issue. Don't carry water for a sleeze like Candace, either you are gullible in the extreme or also just in on the scam.
I cannot believe there is a single person who admires this creep Fuentes. He is a nut.
Is one rogue member of our military, or eight rogue members, not members of our military?
“Tyler Robinson’s DNA was found at the shooting site. He has confessed. His OWN PARENTS turned him in!”
Can assassins plant DNA?
Can patsies be coerced to confess?
If parents think their son is guilty, many would turn him in.
You’re exactly the gullible kind of person the assassins are targeting.
Shall we review what Charlie Kirk texted to Candace Owens? Here’s the text:
“Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”
You don’t understand.
Not “behind” the crime. Involved.
Involved, silly. Meaning they know it affects them and they do what they do to process it.
Of course the military considers itself involved when its members commit crimes.
The only time I’ve ever heard of him is when posters on this site make comments. Other than that, there is nothing about this individual that enters my mind.
He’s a non entity in my thinking.
You mean when Charlie Kirk texted the following to Candace Owens?
“Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”
“Of course the military considers itself involved when its members commit crimes.”
Definition: “Being involved means being a part of something or associated with it. If you volunteer on a team to clean up the playground, you’re involved...”
The military is NOT “involved” in a crime if the person doing it has some previous or current association with the military. The military is not causing, agreeing to, supporting or helping in the criminal act, nor does it know or suspect it will happen.
So your definition is bullshit.
Further: Tyler Robinson is not “involved” in the military, nor is the military “involved” with him! This is the guy whose DNA was found at the site of the shooting.
You keep acting as if that text has meaning with Kirk’s death. Unless you can show Israel in some way was “involved” in Kirk’s murder, the text doesn’t mean squat.
Nor does it mean Kirk stopped supporting Israel’s right to exist. He never changed in that. He was concerned Israel was pushing too hard in Gaza. I disagree with him on that, but it doesn’t mean he stopped supporting Israel.
If there is no Israel connection, then your text is meaningless.
But the text TYLER ROBINSON sent are VERY relevant!
Give it up. You can come up with excuses all day long but she said what she said. “Our military was involved”
So on a more general level, how do we approach the concept of any rogue members of the military committing crimes like murder, in the future?
Is it better to be open about the circumstances and the evidence, or should we always believe only what we’re told?
That is, should we apply common sense and intuition, or should we only trust the government to tell us what’s true and what’s not true?
No, you’re wrong.
I only want to understand the meaning of what Charlie Kirk was thinking when he texted:
“Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”
Was our military involved in the Fort Hood shooting?
I’m not asking if they helped perpetrate it. I’m only asking was the event a military one?
In a murder case? Assume the prosecution is honest because they won’t be able to hide in court. Even if wrong or dishonest, no hiding. FOLLOW THE EVIDENCE! Which will not be fully publicized until a jury is listening.
What you do NOT do is start making wild accusations while ignoring things like DNA evidence and confessions that are already public knowledge!
And what in the HELL is this military crap? Military members fall under both the military AND civilian criminal courts. But there’s 0 indication of any military involvement.
No, the military was not “involved “ in the Ft Hood shooting. People were. The military did nothing involved in the crime. It was not a military event. No military planning support or instigation. The military was not involved in the murder. But it helped the investigation…
You have your argument, and I have mine.
If you were confident in yours, you wouldn’t mischaracterize skepticism as “wild accusations,” and you wouldn’t be so emotional.
By the way, do you understand that skepticism is very different from “wild accusations?”
Did it happen on a military base?
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