Posted on 12/10/2025 8:50:08 AM PST by bluescape
Would some of you give me an opinion of Candice Owens? I know we have some loose cannons on the right. I feel like overall we have healthy disagreements that are based on honest differences compared to libs that line up perfectly for the strict purpose of power.
Steven Crowder had Nick Fuentes on and asked him straight questions about some controversies and the exchange was refreshing. Not a gotcha interview but an informative one.
Lots of decent conservative shows like Tim Pool, Dave Rubin, Micheal Knowles invite other conservatives to discuss their issues so that they can argue openly and honestly. That helps me understand some of the BS from the left. Other folks I just haven't kept up with but I hear some strange quotes from them.
If they're crazy, fine. We can disagree on what's sane. We're not libs that twist and blur the truth for power..,Mostly. But we have some disappointing apples in our ranks and we should hold them accountable.
Is Candice Owens crazy dishonest or just a strange flip flopper?
You know we live in an age where its easy to check facts on this right?
TPUSA did not deny that Charlie Kirk expressed frustration with pro-Israel donors in private messages, but clarified that his views were nuanced and that he was not abandoning his support for Israel.
She was told she had 24 hours.
Why would you try to distort this?
Lying to perpetrate evil is always low IQ.
“his views were nuanced” means “we don’t want his views to become publicly known.”
Why are you so afraid of Charlie Kirk’s texts?
Ok since you asked, I noticed a change after she had her baby. Looked like maybe postpartum depression. It was awhile back but that could have been the start. She deserves prayer just like the rest.
These are the Charlie Kirk texts:
“Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won’t cancel Tucker.” “I’m thinking of inviting Candace.”
“Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”
And Turning Point spokespeople are, in essence, saying we’re not allowed to think about these texts.
Why are you so afraid of Charlie Kirk’s texts?
Not afraid of any texts. Why are you mischaracterizng my posts? Lying is Low I.Q.
They don't imply at all that Israel is involved in Charlie's death. There's no evidence and insinuations state otherwise.
Insinuations? Lying is Low I.Q.
“But why would you accuse Charlie Kirk of implying Israel was involved?”
I never suggested that. Try reading. The texts Charlie Kirk wrote - if they meant he was turning on Israel, which he was not - would only be relevant if they provided a motive for Israel to murder him. WHICH IS A STUPID SCENARIO!
As I wrote: “Dammit we KNOW who killed Charlie. He was in court today.”
Nope. Not at all. UNLESS you are blaming Israel and the Jews when there is ZERO evidence pointing to them and a TON of evidence that his killer was a dude who was bonkers over another dude who wanted to be a woman: Tyler James Robinson.
There is a ton of evidence, including a confession:
“Robinson’s partner, with whom he shared an apartment, shared their text messages with police, according to charging documents released by Utah County officials.
On September 10, Robinson allegedly sent a message to his partner instructing them to “drop what you are doing, look under my keyboard.”
Under the suspect’s keyboard, his partner found a note reading, “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I’m going to take it,” according to police, who said they found a photo of the note.
In subsequent messages to his partner, Robinson seemed to confirm he had shot Kirk and said he “had enough of his hatred.” He said he had planned the attack for over a week and discussed his plans to recover the rifle from where he left it.”
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/29/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-court
“Palm prints were later found at the edge of the roof, as well as smudges from which samples were collected to look for DNA evidence. A footprint was found on the ground, which showed he was wearing Converse sneakers. He then moved into a wooded area north of the campus, where a rifle with a scope on top and containing inscribed bullet casings was later found...
The day after the shooting, his parents convinced him to come to their residence in Washington, Utah, after they recognized his likeness from news images that authorities alleged were of the shooter. As they discussed the situation, Robinson allegedly implied that he was the shooter.[74][75][76] Robinson also told them he was fearful of being shot by police, or a SWAT team being sent to his parents’ house.[77] His parents contacted a member of their LDS congregation who was a retired detective and had previously worked for the Washington County sheriff.[78] The retired detective called the sheriff and made arrangements for Robinson to surrender.[78] He and Robinson’s father then drove Robinson to the sheriff’s office the evening of September 11 and Robinson was taken into custody without incident.[78][79] Governor Spencer Cox said the next day that Robinson was the only suspect.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Charlie_Kirk
“And Turning Point spokespeople are, in essence, saying we’re not allowed to think about these texts.”
No, but any sane person knows they mean NOTHING - unless you believe Mossad murdered him because he wasn’t going to be enthusiastic enough in his support of Israel.
And those texts, written in a moment of anger, did not reflect any change in his belief in Israel’s right to exist.
You act as thought THEY are a confession, and the confession of the murderer is not!
Her quote was “Charlie Kirk was assassinated and our military was involved.”
See how that works?
Does the military consider itself involved when one of its members commits a crime?
See?
But Charlie Kirk didn’t say right to exist.” Why are you massively distorting what Charlie texted?
Why did they give her 24 hours? Makes no sense unless they didn’t want her to show up.
Nobody can scramble to to something like that in 24 hours.
Turning Point is manipulating you.
Why do you think Charlie Kirk texted this:
“Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.”
Why does any of this mean everyone needs to close their minds and put on blindfolds?
And why does it mean we should never, ever question the establishment?
Try to replace your vague, meaningless innuendo here with a well articulated, declarative statement.
She did not say “one member of the military” she said “our military.”
If a news reporter states that our military was involved in a skirmish somewhere, are they referring to a single military member? No.
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