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Trump Offer? Recognize Crimea to End War?
Newsmax ^ | November 28, 2025 | Newsmax Wires

Posted on 11/29/2025 7:34:44 AM PST by Navy Patriot

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Very Interesting.

Newsmax Wires is more reliable than Associated Presstitutes or Rooters Sewer Service.

1 posted on 11/29/2025 7:34:44 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s bizarre that the EU is floating the mantra that borders should not be changed by violence when that has been the most common method of changing borders throughout history.


2 posted on 11/29/2025 7:39:09 AM PST by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: Navy Patriot

End the war and then Putin will invade another country


3 posted on 11/29/2025 7:43:55 AM PST by butlerweave (Fateh)
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To: Navy Patriot

“borders must not be changed by force.”

This guy has a problem with reality.


4 posted on 11/29/2025 7:44:58 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: JayGalt

Will the rest of Europe have to prepare for the next Russian incursion? They have not been willing to as long as uncle sugar is around.

I’m talking preparation for the next 80 years.


5 posted on 11/29/2025 7:45:26 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: JayGalt

Well, that and post-colonial empire British mapmakers….
Whose lines drawn on maps have led to continuous conflicts


6 posted on 11/29/2025 7:47:27 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: JayGalt

If the killing is ever going to stop common sense and inevitability must converge. That is what this sounds like.


7 posted on 11/29/2025 7:50:46 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: Navy Patriot

No!!!


8 posted on 11/29/2025 7:54:50 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: silverleaf

There was a you tube video that showed the map of Europe over the last 1,000 years condensed into 5 or 10 minutes. The borders were constantly changing.


9 posted on 11/29/2025 8:00:33 AM PST by alternatives?
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To: alternatives?

Now try the Middle East, southern Asia and Africa….


10 posted on 11/29/2025 8:02:08 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

They should always have been prepared. They have squandered the strength of the EU and the individual countries. They destroyed the heritage and security of the citizens who made up the Countries of the EU by acting irresponsibly based on liberal fantasies.
If they don’t smarten up and become responsible rather than posturers their Countries will cease to exist with either conquest from within or from without.


11 posted on 11/29/2025 8:02:16 AM PST by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: Navy Patriot
It is actually facing reality, if Russia was to even consider that an honest attempt was being put forth to end the conflict, is to recognize Russian control of land they have obtained control of, is now theirs.

Russia was more than willing to not even invade to acquire more of Ulraine's landmass if they agreed to announcing their neutrality, and their refusal of ever becoming a NATO member nation.

While the Minsk Agreements did not explicitly require Ukraine to declare neutrality or reject NATO membership, but Russia consistently demanded such a provision as a condition for peace. The agreements themselves focused on ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons, decentralization, and local elections in Donetsk and Luhansk regions under Ukrainian law.

However, Russia insisted on Ukraine enshrining neutrality in its constitution to prevent NATO accession, a demand that Ukraine refused.

While the Minsk II agreement included provisions for special status for the breakaway regions, including linguistic rights and local police units, it did not include a formal neutrality clause or a veto over Ukraine’s foreign policy.

The Ukrainian government maintained that its foreign policy orientation, including potential NATO membership, was a sovereign decision for its legislature, not subject to external dictate.

Despite Russia’s repeated demands, no Minsk agreement legally bound Ukraine to neutrality or NATO exclusion, but it has always been the reguirment for a peaceful resolution to alleviate tensions present there were the cause of Russia's fear of NATO physically being next door.

12 posted on 11/29/2025 8:02:48 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: JayGalt; wardaddy

2014 is the year of the Maidan coup that drove out a recently elected Uke president.

The Maidan coup, like the 2004 color revolution, looks like something that we cooked up. “We” being a powerful neocon foreign policy establishment. In both cases a Russian friendly Uke president was overthrown.

There’s certainly evidence that this neocon cabal worked hard at driving a wedge between Ukraine and Russia. They may even have wanted the war to start. Most of us weren’t paying any attention to what was going on there.


13 posted on 11/29/2025 8:06:18 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Navy Patriot
Crimea was a suzerain state of the Ottoman Empire, until Catherine the great took it from the turks and kept it in the 18th century. When the USSR took over after the Russian Revolution Crimea was part of Russia all the way up to the 1950s when they drew up boundaries and put Crimea in the Ukraine but of course that's a fig leaf, they - Russia - kept total control over it as everywhere else in the USSR. Only since the 1990s has it ever been part of an independent Ukraine, and that was after an agreement that Russia would retain access to their essential warm water port in Sevastopol, access the Ukrainians later started saying they might not allow anymore.

This is a complex region with a lot of history. It was a Turkish khanate of the Ottoman Empire for about 350 years, then Russian for 170 years, then a Russian puppet for another 40, and now Ukrainian for the last 35 years, give or take.

14 posted on 11/29/2025 8:09:11 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: Pelham

The neocons have a lot to answer for but I fear they never will. There is a subset of people that believe they are so wise and so prescient that they should decide the fates of countries & millions of people. They maintain silence to remove even the shred of choice from the people & any risk of accountability from themselves.


15 posted on 11/29/2025 8:22:54 AM PST by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

When China grabs Taiwan, we should just get out of the way.


16 posted on 11/29/2025 8:28:56 AM PST by Miami Rebel (A crap product,and vastly over-proced)
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To: JayGalt
Since the beginning of time...To the victor goes the spoils.

Ukraine would be wise to legally transfer the occupied lands. They've lost it anyways...

THEN they can join NATO to protect what's left and bring peace to their people.

17 posted on 11/29/2025 8:29:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Russians aren’t that stupid to invade a NATO country. At this point, it’s all about saving face.


18 posted on 11/29/2025 8:30:23 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: Navy Patriot

“ with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s chief of staff Andriy Yermak”

Former Chief of staff


19 posted on 11/29/2025 8:36:11 AM PST by Jim Noble (Let it turn to something else, Matty)
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To: Navy Patriot

“ with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s chief of staff Andriy Yermak”

Former Chief of staff


20 posted on 11/29/2025 8:36:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Let it turn to something else, Matty)
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