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I'd dismiss this as media speculation/fabrication, except for the fact that Republican congressmen are directly quoted.

It's an interesting conundrum, since lots of voters will be losing coverage at the beginning of an election year if a replacement isn't dvised.

1 posted on 11/24/2025 12:46:06 PM PST by Miami Rebel
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Trump is on the wrong side of this one.

There are so many reasons unconstitutional gov’t healthcare should be abolished.

Here is a sampling of reasons:

1) Gov’t takeover of healthcare is unconstitutional and, thus, illegal. Nowhere does the Constitution delegate power to the feds to meddle in healthcare.

2) See 1)

3) Gov’t healthcare puts your individual healthcare in the hands of distant, indifferent, and non-medial D.C. bureaucrats and politicians who of course as middlemen must be paid and, thus, increasing the cost of healthcare. The HHS bureaucracy has a budget of $1 trillion.

4) The highest quality, most affordable, and most available healthcare in the world is what we had in the voluntary cooperation DIRECTLY between doctor and patient before the gov’t muscled in in the 50’s and 60’s with its “helping hand” hand out and a hammer behind his back! As Ronald Reagan said, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the Government, and I’m here to help’”.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4350455/posts?page=1

5) Gov’t hammer? What hammer? Forced vaccines, forced abortions, forced treatment all by distant politicians and bureaucrats who are not medical experts and do not know you personally.

6) Gov’t agenda vs. your own personal agenda. Who cares more about your health? You? Or some distant politician and bureaucrat who doesn’t know you from Adam and frankly couldn’t care less about you personally?

7) No one cares more about your health than you. Why in the world would you take your personal healthcare and your personal choices in the self interest of your health and wellbeing out of the hands of the DIRECT relationship between you and the doctor of your choosing who knows and cares about you, and instead put your healthcare in the hands gov’t politicians and bureaucrats who don’t know you, have the power to force you to do what they want, and who have their own agenda which includes “culling” the “overpopulation” - so gov’t has a bias toward death.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4350451/posts
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/the-1-killer-in-hospitals-isnt-a

8) “Healthcare” availability based on gov’t budgeting – a potential disaster. Long lines and long waiting time for procedures immediately available under free market healthcare directly between doctor and patient.
Ongoing government shutdown hinders healthcare providers during flu season

9) That is a short list. There’s more but why would anyone need more reasons? NUKE UNCONSTITUTIONAL GOV’T HEALTHCARE!!!


2 posted on 11/24/2025 12:50:43 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Miami Rebel

The cliff is a problem. It works against productivity.


3 posted on 11/24/2025 12:56:24 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Miami Rebel

Obamacare is Romneycare with a different cover page.


4 posted on 11/24/2025 12:57:48 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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Trump previously came out in favor of universal coverage prior to the 2016 campaign. And I think his tendencies lie in that direction.

This is one of the fissure-points in the GOP coalition. There is the pro-working class/populist group - of which MTG is one example -- versus the traditional small/limited government wing of the GOP.

5 posted on 11/24/2025 12:59:09 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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More likely Obamacare done right.

But I still don’t want it.


6 posted on 11/24/2025 1:04:44 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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MS Now, formerly MSNBC.

Seriously?


7 posted on 11/24/2025 1:06:35 PM PST by greenbrier
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To: Miami Rebel

A mess was created, that being Obama-care. As bad as it is (told ya so!), 15 years later it’s tentacles are now everywhere.

Ideally, the whole bill should be repealed. It’s so entangled Realistically, I do not see that happening.

Can Trump or others modify it to make it less expensive? I hope so. And perhaps that’s what Trump is trying to do.

Put the puck on the ice and see if some one comes up with a better response.


9 posted on 11/24/2025 1:08:29 PM PST by llevrok (Voter apathy wins elections for liberals.)
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Shouldn’t this report say MS NOW, formerly known as MSNBC?


10 posted on 11/24/2025 1:08:33 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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Too many Republican Congresscritters are getting money from Big Insurance. Therefore, they oppose the Feds not giving money to Big Insurance. Everything else is BS.


11 posted on 11/24/2025 1:09:20 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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https://www.kff.org/quick-take/back-to-the-future-a-look-back-at-high-risk-pools/


18 posted on 11/24/2025 1:34:35 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Share of total health spending, by percentile, 2021

Top 1% of people with the highest health spending 24%

Top 5% 51%

Top 10% 67%

Bottom 50% 3%

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-expenditures-vary-across-population/#Share%20of%20total%20health%20spending,%20by%20percentile,%202021


19 posted on 11/24/2025 1:38:03 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Where is their plan? They promised a better plan more than 15 years ago, and we are still waiting for it to be unveiled.


20 posted on 11/24/2025 1:43:15 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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You don’t fix a system as corrupt as ObamaCare because the fix will still be as horrendously corrupt as the original.


23 posted on 11/24/2025 2:00:00 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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Perhaps:

PARTIAL ENHANCED SUBSIDY CONTINUATION [for 2026 & 2027]

Except as required by the Fair Share PPACA premium minimums below, the monthly to be paid on a plan would not exceed the Schumer formula amount by more than 1.5 times the household’s income in percentage terms of FPL exceeds 90% FPL in terms of dollars.

If the household’s income is 400% of FPL, the percentage difference is 310% and increase would typically be capped at $465/month.

If the household’s income is 300% of FPL, the percentage difference is 210% and increase would typically be capped at $315/month.

FAIR SHARE PPACA PREMIUM MINIMUMS

I would impose premium minimums of the higher of:
1. 1/65th of the Medicare Part B premium amount per insured year of age as of the start of coverage
2. one-tenth the percentage of the policy premium of the household income’s as a percentage of FPL.

For a 5-year-old, 7-year-old, 32-year-old and 34-year-old, the ages would sum to 88 and the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be a (88/65)*$185 or $250.46.

For a 5-year-old kid and a 27-year-old mom the ages would sum to 32 and the monthly absolute minimum premium amount would be (32/65)*$185 or $91.07.

For the second minimum, a family whose income is 300% of FPL would have to pay at least 30% (one-tenth of 300%) of the cost of the policy.

[NOTE: About half the premium is to subsidize unhealthy people. Paying 30% is covering well over 60% of true risks of most insureds.]

Insurers could waive the minimums for up to 20% of their PPACA policy holders after the first month’s premium is paid provided a $20 financial review fee is paid upfront. Waivers may not be granted in any space open to insureds (to prevent racial discrimination and threats). Insurers need not waive for the entire remaining term.


27 posted on 11/24/2025 2:27:32 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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Where is the Republican plan? They have had ample time - years - to put their own plan together, but we never see one. Trump's plan may not be the best, but the GOP gets Trump's plan for the same reason that they ended up with Trump as their party leader - nature abhors a vacuum, and the GOP has perfected the art of being a political party about nothing.
28 posted on 11/24/2025 2:28:39 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Everyone that voted Trump/R in '24 needs to show up in '26.)
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Is he going to denounce them, too, as traitors?


31 posted on 11/24/2025 2:31:21 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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“Cassidy said his proposal would allow people who purchase bronze plans on the ObamaCare exchanges to receive a prepaid Health Savings Account, funded in part by the lapsed enhanced subsidies.

“Bronze plans have lower premiums but higher deductibles. They are the only ObamaCare plan eligible for HSAs; Trump’s tax bill changed the rules so that all bronze plans are eligible for HSAs starting Jan. 1.”

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5611836-trump-republicans-aca-subsidies-health-care-plan/

NOTE: I’m just posting what I’ve read. I don’t claim any understanding of it.


32 posted on 11/24/2025 2:44:45 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/the-new-aca-repeal-and-replace-health-savings-accounts/

NOTE: I don’t understand this either.


33 posted on 11/24/2025 2:55:39 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/2025/11/sen-rick-scott-introduces-bill-to-fix-obamacare-and-drive-down-health-care-costs


35 posted on 11/24/2025 2:56:55 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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“provided that the State maintains an invisible
high-risk insurance pool or another program de
signed to mitigate risk to insurance premium costs.”

https://www.rickscott.senate.gov/services/files/A825A3CA-ADE1-4E2D-8F5D-7E98D65BA27A


36 posted on 11/24/2025 2:59:35 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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