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What unlawful orders?
American Thinker ^ | 20 Nov, 2025 | Chuck Parker

Posted on 11/20/2025 4:45:27 AM PST by MtnClimber

The Democrats recently trotted out six members of Congress with military or intelligence community experience to encourage soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, and intelligence officials to disobey orders. Part of the oath we take is to obey the lawful orders of those appointed over us. These Dems talk about disobeying “unlawful” orders. What orders are they talking about? The military does a good job in training of explaining that if you are in combat and ordered to line up a bunch of civilians and execute them, you have a responsibility to disobey. I am unaware of any recent orders along those lines.

Are the Dems saying the B-2 pilots should have refused to bomb Iranian nuclear facilities? The refuelers should have refused to fly? The Patriot battery should have refused to shoot down Iranian missiles aimed at Israel? Those conducting attacks on drug boats should disobey? CIA analysts who discover the launch of drug boats should conceal their discoveries from superiors?

Actually, there is an historical example that could highlight this issue. During the Vietnam war Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara recommended and President Lyndon Johnson approved changing our strategic goal from win to tie. The decision occurred on November 5, 1966 and based on domestic political calculations relating to the 1968 election. The mechanism to achieve the new goal was to stop the open-ended commitment to victory and establish a troop ceiling beyond which we would not go. The administration wished to avoid mobilization or calling up the reserve and set the ceiling accordingly. The American commander in Vietnam, General William Westmoreland, advised that while we would not be defeated with the proposed force, neither would we win and it would be a prescription for an unreasonably protracted conflict. That was good enough for the Johnson administration.

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KEYWORDS: ar15kelly; leftism
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To: TheThirdRuffian

+1


21 posted on 11/20/2025 6:39:35 AM PST by sauropod
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To: Bull Snipe

Exactly. The brig and then the Courts Martial. The “due process” in the military law is unlike due process in civilian law which is unlike due process in immigration law.

Yet the left side of the bell curve will be screaming DUE PROCESS in front of every camera available.

EC


22 posted on 11/20/2025 7:15:12 AM PST by Ex-Con777 (Leftists quote the Constitution like an atheist quotes the Bible)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
And she tell Rogers to get off of her lawn!
23 posted on 11/20/2025 7:50:30 AM PST by equaviator (Nobody's perfect. That's why they put pencils on erasers!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
That is not a gimmick and is quite dangerous. Each of them should at a minimum be questioned by the FBI. Kelley is the worse of the bunch he is retired military. The reason this is so bad is the chaos this could cause in the ranks. Anybody who listened to these morons could end up discharged under less than honorable conditions or end up in Leavenworth.
24 posted on 11/20/2025 8:16:21 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me)
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To: MtnClimber

They believe the Constitution is whatever they say it is - and therefore any order from Trump is “illegal” in their warped interpretation of American law and the Constitution.

They should be held accountable for treason and given the proper punishment.


25 posted on 11/20/2025 8:30:36 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

26 posted on 11/20/2025 7:07:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

>They need to be pinned down on what actual orders they claim were made that are supposed to be disobeyed.

Their social media, voice mail, and email should be covered up with messages from constituents demanding exactly that. Local GOP operations in their districts need to work on that.


27 posted on 11/20/2025 11:11:43 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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