Posted on 11/17/2025 4:45:49 AM PST by MtnClimber
I have noticed over the last few months media reports that there are 10 million illegal aliens in the U.S. And now a small group in the U.S. House of Representatives is using that number to ask for amnesty.
Others are addressing the horrible idea itself. This article is a focus on the number they are pushing. This number stood out to me because President Biden let in at least 10 million illegal aliens, and I thought there were more than 10 million in the U.S. before President Biden was elected. My radar went on full alert.
So I did some research. According to the 2020 U.S. Census, there were at least 12 million illegals in the U.S. in that year. So if we had at least 12 million in 2020, and President Biden let in at least 10 million, that means we had at least 22 million in the U.S. in January of 2025.
I have to call BS on the 10 million number they are using. All the numbers are estimates, and these estimates are being generated by people with a pro-illegal agenda. There are at least 22 million illegals, not 10 million, and I believe that these estimates are likely underestimates. I refuse even to have a onversation with people who provably lie to push their agenda.
This false amnesty plan is another trap, and it is dishonest in so many ways, the least of which is the number being presented.
Any talk of amnesty increases the number of illegals. Reagan conservatives found out the hard way. The amnesty granted in the 1980s did not slow down illegal immigration. The Biden open border along with the possibility of hiding in the U.S. with the remote possibility of future amnesty is also a draw.
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BobL, it’s cute that you believe the 11 million number that was thrown at us for a decade or two of increasing illegal population. It’s almost like you fully trust and believe the Census Bureau, say.
I wish the Congressmen would care about Americans like they do people on vacation who are neglecting their own family back home. They could build untold wealth in their own countries where they are desperately needed.
Think of it this way the DACA arrivals took place when they were children and they were adults under Obama when he used his pen and his phone to give them some kind of limbo and they are still here the number is probably upwards of 50 million and it has been going on since Reagan(the greatest President of my lifetime) and Ted Kennedy fought over legal and illegal immigration during his tenure
The 12 million illegal aliens in the the US number was a low ball number concocted during the Clinton Administration for PR purposes to further the Left's illegal alien agendas.
Despite the fact that we have had about one million illegals crossing the border every year since the 1990s that 12 million number has not changed despite the fact that the massive numbers of illegal aliens who have flooded our country are so large that they are changing our national identity and demographics
After Obama was elected, the illegal alien immigration became a flood
it's gotten so bad that more than half of California's entire population is either: an immigrant legal and illegal but mostly illegal) themselves (1st generation), or the U.S.-born child of an immigrant (ie an anchor baby).
So the math works out to say and officially approved but already low ball number of 12 million in say 2000.
Another 15 million at least (25 million border crossers with a generous 10 million going back home) but the true number is probably higher and closer to 25 million
At least 12 million coming in under Biden
that is 12 million+ 15 million +12 million for a minimum of 39 million illegal aliens in the country - not counting their anchor babies.
Obama has fundamentally changed America
The left always lies.
Like when they said 10% of the population was gay when it was actually 3-5% gay. Now, though, since the left has been given children to corrupt and abuse in the education system, that 10% is closer to reality.
“I refuse even to have a conversation with people who provably lie to push their agenda.”
How about people who repeat a falsehood, a lie, because they erroneously believe it’s the truth? How can you convince them of their error without a conversation of some sort?
“22 million illegals. I would not be surprised if there are twice that many”
I believe, that number is closer to 40-45 million, I agree with your belief.
… “I have to call BS on the 10 million number they are using.” …
I voted for President Trump to put the proper people and systems in place to sort this out.
Didn't President Autopen have an app they could all register on to get in? Doesn't that number come only from those who actually USED the app? Funny how every illegal border crosser can afford a cell phone and most arrive with designer clothing and backpacks, isn't it?
“Reagan conservatives found out the hard way. “
Bull. This Reagan conservative knew amnesty was a total crock and dead wrong from jump street.
It’s around 40 million, currently on a lowering trend because of the rise in self-deportations that so many claimed wouldn’t happen.
What folks here are skipping over is how some Democrat Congressmen are pushing for amnesty despite being in the minority right now. They’re encouraged by President Trump’s favoring H1B’s continuation and possible expansion. Give them an inch...
This illustrates how pervasive the pro-illegal immigrant lobby is, backed by businesses too used to getting away with flouting the law while profiting from near-slave labor.
What’s NEVER addressed is cracking down on the enablers: those who steal ID information and Social Security numbers and sell them to illegals - while the IRS seems oblivious. When ripped-off citizens try to straighten it out these victims are the ones treated as if they’re the ones trying to scam the system.
and about 450,000 are on Welfare and contributing NOTHING
I seen estimates of 30 million ... 1/10 of the total US population ... and most of them want free stuff ... I wonder what will happen if one day all their benefits dry up ... will they just leave peacefully and return to their country of origin? ... RIIIIIIGHT!
I believe, that number is closer to 40-45 million also all the anchor babies count keep adding up.
Illinois claims to have about 120,000 over age 45. At least that’s how many signed up for the free medial that Prickster is giving away. Probably that many more just did not sign up, fearing that info get into the hands of ICE. So if you figure 200,000 per State that’s 10M OVER age 45. Probably at least 5 times that many under 45.
For rounding sake, I believe 30,000,000 is a good midpoint among estimates.
Which means 1 out of every 10 people you see today is an illegal alien.
Get those F****** out.
The far-left, communist DemonRAT “media” claimed there were 11 million illegal alien RATS feasting off Americans EVERY YEAR FOR 50 YEARS. The 70s to the present. The real figure is somewhere in the vicinity of 50 million of the freeloaders smashing the American piñata everyday.
Millions more than anyone has guessed.
illegals from early days of USA on, multi generational now. All those anchor babies multiplied too.
It’s huge if you really want to know how many total.
sure we can go with the suggested 12, or 20 or even 50 million, but over the course of a few hundred years and all the ways they had illegal kids (rape, unwed, married) while being here, and those kids had kids etc etc equals lots more illegals.
I don’t count it that just the border crosser was illegal, All done here after illegal entry is breaking our laws continuously.
It doesn’t magically, in time, become ok.
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