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Iceland deems possible Atlantic current collapse a security risk
Reuters ^ | 11/12/25 | Alison Withers and Stine Jacobsen

Posted on 11/14/2025 6:48:43 AM PST by DallasBiff

COPENHAGEN, Nov 12 (Reuters) - Iceland has designated the potential collapse of a major Atlantic Ocean current system a national security concern and an existential threat, enabling its government to strategize for worst-case scenarios, the country's climate minister told Reuters. The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, current brings warm water from the tropics northward toward the Arctic, and the flow of warm water helps keep Europe’s winters mild.

But as warming temperatures speed the thaw of Arctic ice and cause meltwater from Greenland’s ice sheet to pour into the ocean, scientists warn the cold freshwater could disrupt the current’s flow. A potential collapse of AMOC could trigger a modern-day ice age, with winter temperatures across Northern Europe plummeting to new cold extremes, bringing far more snow and ice. The AMOC has collapsed in the past - notably before the last Ice Age that ended about 12,000 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: alisonwithers; bbc; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; gulfstream; iceland; reuters; stinejacobsen
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To: DallasBiff

More climate change religion bull$hit.


21 posted on 11/14/2025 7:25:29 AM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: DallasBiff

Are they going to shoot it?


22 posted on 11/14/2025 7:25:58 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: mdmathis6

Something is wrong with their calculus!


When you look at one or two datapoints of a complex system it gives you an easy answer.

I remember my first day in class with an old school Prof. “Statistics NEVER gives you an answer. At best, it might give you another question.””


23 posted on 11/14/2025 7:26:10 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Carry_Okie

Plus, Iceland’s a third world leftwing hellhole which happens to have a decent level of income/dole — so who cares what they say or think about anything. ❄


24 posted on 11/14/2025 7:27:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: DallasBiff

The Gulf Stream begins in the Gulf of America. Maybe it was a bad idea to rename the Gulf—now Iceland can sue America for damages rather than suing Mexico.


25 posted on 11/14/2025 7:27:23 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: DallasBiff

Still trying to spew that bullshit. They haven’t figured out yet that nobody believes them. But they’re the best and the smartest so we have to listen to them.


26 posted on 11/14/2025 7:30:38 AM PST by cp124 (Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: DallasBiff

The borealis affect spins Atlantic water clockwise which brings colder water from the arctic down the coast of Europe, eventually into equatorial regions.

So, if this accelerates , look for fewer and less intense hurricanes spinning off the African coast. I like it. Western Europe may not.

I do remember seeing one palm tree on the coast of Ireland, or Wales, iirc, obviously fed by warm borealis waters.

Remembering times when the Thames river froze predicts it will happen again, someday. Adapt. Buy a sweater.


27 posted on 11/14/2025 7:32:27 AM PST by chiller ( Davy Crockett said:"Be sure you're right, then go ahead." I'll go ahead.)
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To: DallasBiff

The current warming is going to cause cooling.
And when the cooling happens, it will be bad.

Obviously, the future cooling will not cause any warming.
Because that would be crazy.


28 posted on 11/14/2025 7:36:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Democrats seek power through cheating and assassination. They are sociopaths. They just want power.)
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To: DallasBiff

When it happens, let us know. Then it will be news.


29 posted on 11/14/2025 7:38:11 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: DallasBiff

Hank Johnson warns that with global warming Iceland faces the danger of melting.


30 posted on 11/14/2025 7:38:27 AM PST by x
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To: DallasBiff

Don’t see it happening.

Temperature and salinity differences cause currents and water movement, and the Coriolis Effect causes the circulation.

I suppose if the earth stopped spinning and the water was uniform temperature and salinity, it might collapse.


31 posted on 11/14/2025 7:41:09 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: DallasBiff
In other news...

https://www.whoi.edu/press-room/news-release/no-amoc-decline/

New study finds that critical ocean current has not declined in the last 60 years (January 15, 2025)

Key Takeaways:

The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) has not slowed down since the mid-20th century based on the North Atlantic air-sea heat fluxes over that time.

This finding contrasts with studies that have estimated a decline in the AMOC, likely because previous studies rely on sea surface temperature measurements to understand how the AMOC has changed. However, sea surface temperature is not a reliable way to reconstruct the AMOC, according to the authors.

Although the AMOC has not declined yet, scientists agree that the Atlantic overturning will slow in the future—but whether the system can collapse entirely and when this collapse would happen is still up for debate. Such a scenario would have catastrophic consequences globally.


In a new paper published in Nature Communications, scientists found that the AMOC has not declined in the last 60 years. Authors Nicholas P. Foukal, adjunct scientist in Physical Oceanography at WHOI and assistant professor at the University of Georgia; Jens Terhaar, affiliated scientist at WHOI and senior scientist at the University of Bern; and Linus Vogt, visiting student at WHOI when he started to work on this study and now scientist at LOCEAN, Sorbonne Université, say their results mean that the AMOC is currently more stable than expected. /

“Our paper says that the Atlantic overturning has not declined yet,” Foukal said, who conducted the research while at WHOI. “That doesn’t say anything about its future, but it doesn’t appear the anticipated changes have occurred yet.”


The media exists to present narratives, not necessarily truth.

32 posted on 11/14/2025 7:50:59 AM PST by yelostar (The media exists to present narratives, not necessarily truth.)
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To: DallasBiff

Maybe it will drive the price of Greenland down.


33 posted on 11/14/2025 7:51:42 AM PST by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now,)
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To: DallasBiff

Cue up the lawsuits in Federal District Court. I’m sure they have already signed a contingent fee agreement with some plaintiffs’ firm who has promised them billions from Big Oil (or something like that).


34 posted on 11/14/2025 7:53:04 AM PST by con-surf-ative
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To: DallasBiff

If you are willing to make a theory complex enough, you can make any desired effect to be predicted by the theory.

Thus, Global Warming can cause an Ice Age.

Most of this is simply things we do not know, and do not have the ability to know.

Rather like AI clickbait.


35 posted on 11/14/2025 7:54:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: DallasBiff
Scientists warn!

Because...

It's science!

36 posted on 11/14/2025 7:56:25 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: DallasBiff

I read a SI-FI novel sixty years ago about a criminal organization planning to blow up underwater cliffs that would allow the Gulf Stream to flow North and melt the Arctic flooding nations.
I don’t remember the name of it but an agent infiltrated it, found almost every room painted green. He was captured and implanted with a substance that made him itch so horrible inside his head he wanted to tear his head off.


37 posted on 11/14/2025 7:57:46 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970s!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Plus, Iceland’s a third world leftwing hellhole which happens to have a decent level of income/dole — so who cares what they say or think about anything.

When electrical energy and marine protein are virtually free there is effectively license for stupidity.

38 posted on 11/14/2025 8:04:04 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

MBARI gave John an office 3 doors from mine:
https://mlml.sjsu.edu/2020/06/18/30-years-the-iron-hypothesis-is-no-more/


39 posted on 11/14/2025 8:12:06 AM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: DallasBiff

The only contingency plan they need to make in the event of a collapse of the Gulf Stream is how to evacuate and where to go.

Haiti will stay warm, I imagine.


40 posted on 11/14/2025 8:14:30 AM PST by Jim Noble (Let it turn to something else, Matty)
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