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Interesting thesis and confirms what I suspect (Universal basic income) ?

We're headed for a massive change and a potential "reset" that has never happened before.

Or maybe we're all just getting worried about nothing and the timeless principles of capitalism will work it out

Honestly, I dont know how this goes....

1 posted on 10/31/2025 11:40:53 PM PDT by RandFan
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There are things men must do to remain men...


2 posted on 10/31/2025 11:44:48 PM PDT by Skywise
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Kinda sounds a little like H.G. Wells “Things To Come.’’


3 posted on 10/31/2025 11:44:55 PM PDT by jmacusa ( Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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The 42 million on SNAP will just love that.
They don’t really work anyway.


4 posted on 10/31/2025 11:46:32 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Musk is absolutely psychotic and why anybody here takes him seriously at all is a disgrace.


5 posted on 10/31/2025 11:52:26 PM PDT by bakeneko
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Yup, could see this coming a mile away


6 posted on 10/31/2025 11:58:49 PM PDT by onona
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I don’t believe the competitive nature of human beings will ever allow a utopian future. Such as Star Trek for example, where people work only to better themselves and the rest of humanity.


10 posted on 11/01/2025 12:04:56 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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news for you Elon. it’s already optional.


12 posted on 11/01/2025 12:08:14 AM PDT by dadfly
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Not a life I want to live.

Musk may be smart but he must have missed Maslow and I am pretty sure he ain’t got a lick of damn sense.


14 posted on 11/01/2025 12:12:43 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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Working will be optional and so will getting an income.

There will be strings attached to the income. Comply or get fined.


18 posted on 11/01/2025 12:15:24 AM PDT by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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Idol people do not become philosophers, they become welfare queens and and antifa.


25 posted on 11/01/2025 12:49:16 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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Have it on good authority that one ought to work six days each week and rest on the seventh.


28 posted on 11/01/2025 1:09:15 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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This would give America a chance to perfect its Vodka industry.


30 posted on 11/01/2025 1:25:58 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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Bfl


31 posted on 11/01/2025 1:30:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (“Critical thinking is hard; that’s why most people just jump to conclusions.”—Jung (paraphrased))
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Musk is very smart when it comes to building engineering-oriented companies, but he doesn't understand humans. If humans are not needed for work, they are not needed at all. They become useless animals at a zoo—soon-to-be extinct, outdated relics of curiosity.

He thinks this way about humans because he thinks his Optimus robot will replace us.

The positive here is that it raises the question, "Is there a God or not. And, if there is, what does He want for humanity?"

I believe there is a God who created humanity for a purpose and that purpose will continue to play out despite what Musk thinks.

If there is no God, Musk is right. Humanity, for the most part, is done. Their chapter is over.

33 posted on 11/01/2025 2:05:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (“Critical thinking is hard; that’s why most people just jump to conclusions.”—Jung (paraphrased))
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IF, as the prophets of an AI “god” are correct and, robots do OUR bidding, this might happen.

BUT, if the same “prophets” are correct, AI will eventually figure out it doesn’t NEED humans and will see us as vermin to be exterminated so the money (or “crypto” valuation on the world market) can be used to make MORE robots, increase the quantum computing networks for more and better AI hubs, develop space travel or time travel to get off the planet and away from the parasites or just eradicate us all outright.

A recently popular book “If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us All” by Eliezer Yudkowsky (et al.) has a very self-explanatory title.

There ain’t gonna be any AI-based “Universal Basic Income”, Elon.

Wake the f**k up!


36 posted on 11/01/2025 4:07:24 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. Non-native Tennessean.)
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I think that Elon is right about AI scaling and advances reaching a point in five years where you don’t have a computer or phone running applications, AI based applications running on a server will create spreadsheets, run complex programs and pull required data on the fly. Coupled with advances in robotics, this can lead to a major impact on the world of work and what skills are useful. I think like other technology revolutions, there will be a dramatic change, but as before in skill sets and required intelligence to be productive and to integrate with the new society. The idea that no one will work again is faulty thinking; AI is not free, the energy demands are enormous as are the applications of AI to furthering human growth.


37 posted on 11/01/2025 4:11:38 AM PDT by LambSlave
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"Working will be optional"

It already is. American cities are full of shiftless "homeless" people who opt not to work, live on the sidewalks, defecate on the sidewalks, stay zoned out on addictive drugs, and panhandle.

39 posted on 11/01/2025 4:14:49 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("Break free from the temptations and shackles of this world." Erika Kirk, September 21, 2025)
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Elon Musk also says:

"One of the possibilities is the Terminatior scenario. It is not zero percent."

47 posted on 11/01/2025 4:59:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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Prohetic? From 1909.

https://www.amazon.com/Machine-Stops-M-Forster/dp/1434442047

“The Machine Stops,” posits a technology-dependent humanity now living underground, its every need serviced by machines. But what happens if—or when—the machines stop? “The Machine Stops” was named one of the greatest science fiction novellas published before 1965 by the Science Fiction Writers of America.


48 posted on 11/01/2025 5:00:47 AM PDT by dynachrome (“They don’t kill you because you’re a Nazi; they call you a Nazi so they can kill you.”)
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I think Musk is right, but the transition will be really bad.
I’ve been retired for 23 years and will be able to survive.
If you can’t get a job you will lose your house.
Then everything gets messy.
I will buy a few Optimus Robots to help me around the yard, mow the lawn, feed and muck the horses, put the chickens away, weed my vegetable garden, and paint my sheds.
There are always too many maintenance jobs for me to finish my projects.


56 posted on 11/01/2025 6:12:56 AM PDT by Haddit
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