Elon Musk on the impact of robots and AI: "Working will be optional"

X ^ | Oct 31 | Elon Musk and Joe Rogan

[RandFan]

@MJTruthUltra

Crazy times…

Elon Musk says eventually “Working will be Optional”, and everyone will be given a Universal High-Income

- Jobs, where there is no physical work involved, will be eliminated first.

- working will be optional because of robots and AI

[philman_36]

I take it you’ve never been in, much less worked in, a refinery.

[philman_36]

How about heat exchangers? Same answer?

[GingisK]

It doesn't make any difference what part of a refinery, it WILL be possible to use repair robots. The refinery was designed by men for a time when robots did not exist. Those designs can be altered or made anew to facilitate robot activity. The robots themselves can be specifically designed to work in present refineries.

It won't happen until it is economically feasible to do so.

[philman_36]

It won't happen until it is economically feasible to do so.
You haven't a clue. The functionality is what is critical, not the economic feasibility and a redesign can't change the functional process.

Do you even know what an internal tray is inside of those towers and how they function much less what it takes to change them out during maintenance?

Refineries may be able to OPERATE with limited people, but the minute something has to be repaired or maintained you need people.

Protest all you want and make all of the ignorant, uninformed comments you want, but it isn't going to change anything. Robots simply can't do the jobs humans do in refineries.

[GingisK]

You haven't a clue.

You, dear fellow, are the one who hasn't a clue. Do you believe that a refinery is more exotic that an integrated circuit wafer fab?

I am not ignorant. I am an engineer that builds computer controlled apparatus, including robotics gizmos.

I think you are safe from replacement simply because most of the refineries will probably be shut down following your exit from this hollowed dirt ball.

[philman_36]

I am an engineer that builds computer controlled apparatus, including robotics gizmos.

Big whoop. Experience in one field of work gives you no automatic knowledge in another. You're presumptuous to presume otherwise.

I think you are safe from replacement simply because most of the refineries will probably be shut down following your exit from this hollowed dirt ball.

Your over reliance on your presumption of what the future holds is your negation in the here and now.

[GingisK]

Good luck to you in the future. I hope you keep your job until you are fully ready to kick back and just retire. Way too many don’t get to do that these days.

[philman_36]

I’m already retired, retard.

[GingisK]

Me too, gentle soul.

[philman_36]

Me too...
Really?

I am an engineer that builds computer controlled apparatus, including robotics gizmos.
Present tense usage indicates otherwise.
Was and built, get my drift.

[GingisK]

I’m retired, but have three industrial clients who pay on 1099 rather than W-2. So, retired, yet slightly twitching.

[GingisK]

Just to stay active, I also have a nice wood shop and machine shop in my basement. A terrific 3D printer is also tucked in the corner. That stuff gives me a creative outlet, but also serves a great help when making prototype apparatus.

What do you do to keep busy?

[philman_36]

If you're working for pay you're not retired.

Leatherworking. It's very pragmatic and utilitarian.

[GingisK]

If you're working for pay you're not retired.

When you are not a regular employee, your pay is below a particular threshold, and you are drawing Social Security, the IRS classifies you as retired.

Leather working is a great hobby. I have trouble with cramps in my hands and forearms when I work with small tools too long. I hope and pray that you don't have that problem.

[philman_36]

The IRS can shove a hot poker up their arse and they've shoved one up yours as well for believing a thing they say.

Leather working is a great hobby.

Hobby? Building birdhouses is a hobby. I build useful, everyday items and give them as gifts.

I have trouble with cramps in my hands and forearms when I work with small tools too long. I hope and pray that you don't have that problem.
You're a bloody fool if you think I'm a masochist and the only "small tool" involved in learherwork, you daft, ignorant idiot, is threading needles.

[philman_36]

learherwork = leatherworking