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Posted on 10/26/2025 10:26:54 PM PDT by Red Badger
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A majority of the nfl owners (22 of 32) voted against it.
It needs 24 votes (75% super majority) to be made
illegal.
It’s likely to get the remaining 2 votes this year and that
will be the end of it.
9 of the 10 owners who didn’t vote against it also don’t
play the Eagles this year.
The play does NOT stop after the QB made the First Down.
The play stops after a Referee blows the whistle on lack of forward motion.
If the whistle blew BEFORE the fumble, then the call is correct.
If the whistle did NOT blow, then it is a fumble.
Nonsense and so what?
An allegedly blown call on a fumble is no reason to ban a play. The league already ruled on this before the season
In most cases they don’t really push him, the entire team surges forward and this quarterback has the most powerful legs at that position.
And I’m no fan of the quarterback.
Sounds ghey.
CC
“You’ll be surprised, you’re doing the French Mistake... Voila!”
Dom DeLuise - Blazing Saddles.
It clearly blew after the fumble, but replay would not overturn. I’m not a fan of either team, but this really ticked me off.
I recall the Ravens doing it; Lamar Jackson fumbled and the Bengals ran it back for a touchdown.
If the refs aren’t going to call the play consistently then yes they should ban it.
Did the whistle blow before the ball was stripped?
If not, they made a bad call...
These games are fixed anyway. The NBA is just the tip of the iceberg.
Next time the NFL steals something from rugby, try something that is not boring. Watching a mass of humanity crammed together and mindlessly pushing reminded me of the sidewalks in Manhattan the only time I was there during the holidays.
Try San Francisco next.....................
From the “beginnings of football”: “tush push” is essentially a scrum action, i.e. something from rugby! Even though they likely didn’t get the idea from rugby.
Fumble.
It’s a thing the NHL runs into sometimes. There’s this fuzzy grey area between when a ref decides to blow the whistle and the whistle actually blows Because they don’t keep the whistle in their mouth so there’s a half second or so delay between the decision and the act. And if something big happens in that half second... Honestly I think all the leagues need to get some kind of virtual whistle, a button or something refs can push to play a whistle over the sound system so they can cut that delay from half a second to under a 10th.
Exactly right, the question is when did the whistle blow? t
Exactly
People want it banned because teammates pushing the player with the ball is not football.
“Tush Push” but Philly fans also call it the “Brotherly Shove”. It works because of Hurts’ leg strength (as mentioned above) and being practiced/used more often by Philly than other teams. It’s not an illegal play (yet).
If “Golden Boy” Mahomes was the QB doing this... everyone would most likely love it, esp. if Travis Kelce (Tay-tay’s special guy) was helping on the play.
Re: the specific call yesterday ... the whistle did blow, because of stopped forward progress. The ball looked to be already out at the time (on slo-mo) but players had stopped when they heard the whistle. The Giants’ player who grabbed the ball from a reaching Hurts actually bobbled it himself (did not have full possession), and it was picked up by another Giant who just stopped running (Saquon Barkley was the only other player nearby) once the 2nd whistle was heard. Otherwise, he likely could have run it downfield for a TD.
Probably a bad call, definitely questionable, but the challenge was disallowed because you can’t challenge forward progress end calls. The 2nd challenge was allowed because they wanted a ruling on the fumble, but that was not overturned. They might have given the ball to the Giants where the play ended, but it was iffy. There have been much more egregious calls this year ... and don’t get me started on the incredibly stupid “taunting” calls. Oy!
How do they determine that, they often get stopped momentarily and then move forward.
It seems to be at the Refs discretion. They do allow for a player to break out and continue forward. They also blow the whistle much later now when a QB is stopped/held because most are so much more mobile and inclined to run for the yardage if they can slip out. It used to be the whistle went off as soon as the QB was “in the grasp”.
Rules change, and the “Brotherly Shove” will likely be disallowed next season (esp if the Eagles get far into the playoffs again), but for now, it’s considered a legal play.
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