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Karma?.…..future corvette design center gutted by probable EV fire
Corvette Blogger ^ | 10-24-25 | Mitch Talley

Posted on 10/26/2025 7:02:35 AM PDT by Donbue

The Advanced Design Center opened four years ago after a $71 million investment by GM and housed concept vehicles like the California Corvette Concept and lithium-ion batteries that have turned into a nightmare for firefighters. Experts explain that when one battery cell overheats, a chain reaction known as thermal runaway can take place, creating heat, flames, and toxic gases.


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: evfire
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1 posted on 10/26/2025 7:02:35 AM PDT by Donbue
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To: Donbue

Smores anyone?


2 posted on 10/26/2025 7:04:27 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? On hold! Enlisted USN 1967 proudly. 🚫💉! 🇮🇱🙏! Winning currently!)
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To: Donbue

Some things should NOT be messed with. The C8 is a fine machine. Build on that. If you must have a performance EV, come up with a new name, or revive one without the same heritage.

Maybe Fiero, given their tendency to ignite unexpectedly.


3 posted on 10/26/2025 7:10:46 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Donbue
A performance car with an internal combustion engine is outclassed by an EV.

The car with the IC engine will still be near the starting line spinning its wheels as the EV crosses the finish line.

4 posted on 10/26/2025 7:12:09 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Dr. Sivana

I think high end sports cars, which are basically toys, are the perfect application for electric vehicles. From a strictly performance standpoint gas cars can’t hold a candle to EV’s. It is range and recharge time that make them impractical. Cars that purposely put performance over practicality will naturally move to EV, no incentives required.


5 posted on 10/26/2025 7:17:08 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Donbue

Ain’t technology grand Moe.


6 posted on 10/26/2025 7:22:10 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Range and recharge time are performance metrics, as is safety. When airlines buy airframes they evaluate more than just speed and acceleration. The C-130 is still superior to almost any jet for what it does well, and so is the Corolla.


7 posted on 10/26/2025 7:22:38 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Nullius in verba)
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To: Donbue
More than 100 firefighters answered the call around 5:50 p.m. at the 149,000-square-foot complex.

A spokesperson for the Pasadena Fire Department called it “one of the largest structure fires we’ve had in Pasadena in many, many years.”

Impressive!!

8 posted on 10/26/2025 7:23:22 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: fso301
A performance car with an internal combustion engine is outclassed by an EV. The car with the IC engine will still be near the starting line spinning its wheels as the EV crosses the finish line.

Off-the-line is one scenario that marketers for battery powered vehicles really pushed, but Launch Control solved the wheel-spinning quite some time ago.

In addition, a car with an internal combustion engine gets lighter during a race as it burns fuel. An electric vehicle drags the full weight of depleting batteries around for the whole race. The longer the race, the greater the advantage to the internal combustion engine.

9 posted on 10/26/2025 7:23:32 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Donbue
Hazardous blaze at General Motors design studio in Pasadena is extinguished; cause under investigation

The LAT left quite a bit out in the headline and buried the lede.

Scroll down for the important part.

10 posted on 10/26/2025 7:30:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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To: RightOnTheBorder
From a strictly performance standpoint gas cars can’t hold a candle to EV’s.

On paper, you have a point, especially since the Porsche costs a fraction of the cost of the Ferrari and the Bugatti. Nobody questions Porsche engineering, either. The whole experience is a bit different than what an EV is perceived to provide. Adding fake sound to an EV is like adding plastic trim work to a modern build pretending to be Colonial or Gothic. ,

The gear head car experience isn't just about speed or even acceleration. My daughter went to Barrett-Jackson. Huse line for a free ride in the Hellcat. NO LINE for the Mustang-E. They were literally begging people to give it a try.

It isn't even just nostalgia that will fade as the Boomers age out. In nearby Scottsdale, throngs of teen boys and young men (and some young women like my daughter) go to "Cars and Coffee" and similar. All the drooling is over the ICE Lambos, McLarens and Koenigseggs, etc.

Fastest Street Legal Cars (2025)

Quarter-Mile Comparison of 2025 Street Legal Hypercars
PowertrainFastest Car (2025)1/4 Mile (sec)Starting Price (USD)Typical Range (USD)
Electric (EV)Porsche Taycan Turbo GT Weissach9.23$239,400$232,000 – $245,000
HybridFerrari SF90 Stradale9.6$524,814$524,000 – $600,000
ICEBugatti Chiron Super Sport9.4$3,825,000$3.8 – $4 million

11 posted on 10/26/2025 7:37:29 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: T.B. Yoits
In addition, a car with an internal combustion engine gets lighter during a race as it burns fuel. An electric vehicle drags the full weight of depleting batteries around for the whole race. The longer the race, the greater the advantage to the internal combustion engine.

True but once a breakthrough in battery technology comes along, the dead weight of hauling a depleted battery 500 miles will be offset by the IC engined vehicle still having to make pit stops for refueling.

The battery storage could be segmented now in such a way that the EV car goes in for a pit stop and the depleted segment is quickly pulled and replaced or just pulled leaving a lighter vehicle to reenter the race.

Ultimately, I'd put my money on a revolutionary new battery technology coming available before significant improvements in IC engine efficiency are made.

I love IC engines and can't imagine ever getting the thrill of hearing the announcer say "Drivers, turn your start switches to the on position.

However, longer term, EVs with a future generation battery tech are the way to go.

12 posted on 10/26/2025 7:43:52 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Donbue
GM just announced that it's laying off 200 CAD Designers and Engineers at the Tech Center's Vehicle Engineering Center, and it's just like them to keep suppliers guessing whether or not they're next. Rumors and conspiracy theories must be through the roof over there.
13 posted on 10/26/2025 7:47:55 AM PDT by equaviator (Nobody's perfect. That's why they put pencils on erasers!)
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To: Donbue

Bottom line: Other than the niche market, most people simply do not buy EVs. Ford and GM which have invested billions in the research, design and manufacture of EVs are drowning in debt and cannot sell what they produce. If not for the strong demand for their ICE pickup trucks and light vehicles , they would be bankrupt.


14 posted on 10/26/2025 7:49:26 AM PDT by allendale
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To: fso301

EV’s will fade into the past as an utterly failed trend. Nothing about EV is sustainable except the propaganda. The electricity costs more and pollutes more than fossil fuel, the EV’s become hazardous wastes, and are remarkable fire hazards in the interim.


15 posted on 10/26/2025 7:49:49 AM PDT by anton
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To: Donbue

WH


16 posted on 10/26/2025 7:51:16 AM PDT by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity )
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To: RightOnTheBorder

The Corvette Zora should be out soon, if it’s not already out. It’s a hybrid for low end torque, not so much gas mileage.

I think they had an all-electric planned but I’m not sure.


17 posted on 10/26/2025 7:52:42 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Donbue

Lit with lithium.


18 posted on 10/26/2025 7:53:38 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: anton
EV’s will fade into the past as an utterly failed trend. Nothing about EV is sustainable except the propaganda. The electricity costs more and pollutes more than fossil fuel, the EV’s become hazardous wastes, and are remarkable fire hazards in the interim.

You may be correct but it won't be the first time a new EV tech blossomed and died out. Current generation battery tech has proven to be an advancement over lead acid and NiCads which themselves were advancements over the old Edison batteries that powered EVs circa 1900.

Some new storage tech will come along offering very high power-to-weight and fast charging. This future storage tech will force a new generation of EVs that may supplant IC technology as king of the road.

19 posted on 10/26/2025 7:59:15 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Donbue

Oversized electric golf cart fanbois hardest hit.


20 posted on 10/26/2025 8:03:18 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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