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1 posted on 10/22/2025 3:20:49 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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There’s nothing to talk about.


2 posted on 10/22/2025 3:27:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Negotiations in which nothing is to be decided are not negotiations at all, but just photo opportunities. The real negotiation is not done out in the open, with full transparency at all times, but in the give-and-take of executive sessions, and the actual polish is all on the agreement BEFORE the formal signing.


3 posted on 10/22/2025 3:29:51 PM PDT by alloysteel (You gotta accentuate the positive, Eliminate the negative, Latch onto the affirmative....)
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I think Trump wanted a peace deal.

I think Putin figured Trump only has a little over three years left in office and figured the next POTUS could just push to restart the war.

IOW, it’s probably not animus towards Trump.


5 posted on 10/22/2025 3:32:36 PM PDT by packagingguy
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I think Trump has good instincts in situations like this.


6 posted on 10/22/2025 3:34:54 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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7 posted on 10/22/2025 3:37:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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What Pokrovsk doink?


9 posted on 10/22/2025 3:47:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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No it was because Trump, Rubio, and others were not willing to do the serious work of advance diplomacy and talk to the Russians seriously.

Trump wants a “Cease Fire” and will not discuss all the issues with Putin and Russia, so no meeting.


10 posted on 10/22/2025 3:50:47 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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I think tails will wag and jaws will flap up and down... but the real deal is to give Putin time to get what he wants. Both Putin and Trump share a common enemy: the Democrat and Republican neocons. They spied on Trump, gave him Russiagate, had him impeached twice, had the CIA and FBI turn on him, stole the 2020 election from him, accused him of the Jan 6 Insurrection, had the FBI rampaged through Mar-a-Lago looking for secret documents, had him up on tax and bimbo charges and... here is the clincher... had two assassination attempts on him. Did I miss something? Wouldn’t that do something to a person? So Putin and Trump share this common enemy, and Trump is giving Putin time to take as much of Ukraine as he wants. Nice Christmas present.


11 posted on 10/22/2025 3:53:07 PM PDT by BEJ
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The boss.


12 posted on 10/22/2025 4:03:44 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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All you gotta do is read the art of the deal.

I never walk into a negotiation unless I’m in a position to win, or the losses are negligible.

I’ve been asked to negotiate a lot of tough situations. I’ve walked away from some. Take on challenges you can win.


14 posted on 10/22/2025 4:19:31 PM PDT by Celerity
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Just what a Russian asset would do.

Right, Democrats?


16 posted on 10/22/2025 4:40:17 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Democrat cult.)
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Putin can’t quit.

How do you go back to a million parents of dead sons and ask them to accept a modest victory? They would string him up.

The oligarchs are the ones who need to make him give up. And to date, they are not suffering enough. We need to take away their money. We need to expel them and their families and their mistresses from Europe and send them packing.

We need to stop allowing them to transfer any money. Dollars in the caymans mean nothing if they can’t be spent anywhere else.

Ukraine needs to take the war to the families of the oligarchs. Wherever they are.


17 posted on 10/22/2025 4:47:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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When Trump talked to Putin on the phone he must of sounded like an Obama ,LOL


23 posted on 10/22/2025 5:40:08 PM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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24 posted on 10/22/2025 5:46:23 PM PDT by McGruff
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Step 1, Terms Written Up: Days 1-14

The Russians should be asked to type up a complete long-term peace proposal.

The Ukrainians should be asked to type up a complete long-term peace proposal.

******

In Putin’s dream world, every Russian demand would be incorporated in the final deal, which would be made public.

In Zelensky’s dream world, every Ukrainian demand would be incorporated in the final deal, which would be made public.

There’s no legitimate reason for secrecy.

******

Once all the demands of both sides are known, our State Department could write up a proposal that Putin might accept, which could be offered up to Putin if Ukraine agrees.

If Ukraine doesn’t want to work with the US via such a proposal or a reasonable modification thereof, Zelensky can be told to sell war bonds.


28 posted on 10/22/2025 6:33:17 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Tell your Crazy Ukie Gypsy Dictator Trump will not be giving YouCraynee
Tomahawks. Won’t even sell them to him.
WW3 Averted For The Moment.

“Peace By Easter”(2025)


31 posted on 10/23/2025 3:33:18 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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