Readint of the Tea Leaves: Project Ukraine

You forgot to mention the word “propaganda” 20 times. That'll surely discount what someone else wrote and not be descriptive of your own work.

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Post Cold War:

Russia has a new constitution.

You have freedom of movement both for Russians and us wanting to go there.

You have privatization of the economy and as stated earlier, their government participation rate is comparable to the West, even lower than many countries despite their partial wartime mobilization!

Russia has elections, unlike Ukraine.

Russia allows private ownership, foreign investment, free movement of money, open communications... It's “us” that is limiting the trade, communications, and movement of money, not the Russia's. We're the ones with sanctions.

Your whole Soviet argument is based on cliche and ignorance.

All you're left with is saying "but but but" and trying to minimize things with arguments you could just as well apply against us, our elections are also not entirely real and I seriously doubt Biden won in 2020 with more votes than Obama before him. We also torture, kidnap, assassinate. We also censor and propagandize...

People like you simply live in this belief that you own the forum and everyone has to agree with you, no matter how stupid your argument is, or else they're a communist sympathizer, Putin puppet, unAmerican, copy and pasting, spreading Russian propaganda, bla bla bla. Actually try making an argument for once!!!

Seldom have you ever really brought fourth a solid argument. I'm not sure you can, either you lack the intellectual capacity or the positions you take are indefensible. In either case, all you do is personal attacks against people, name calling essentially.

There is no bad faith. A Russian wrote information in March or April making predictions based on information given him by the Russian GO staff. It had yet to happen. Chasa Yar had yet to fall - all of it was looking into the future.

This frontline Russian P-R-E-D-I-C-T-E-D SIX (6) MONTHS AGO not only the timeline but operational movement and tactics in advance. Let that sink in. He got the movement of Russian forces advancing and he got the timeline/timeframe by which they accomplished this.

I updated to current week of October 25 and provided additional information as to how and why Russia was continuing unabated to move at a pace they stated, on the map in the same amount of time they stated they would do.

Everything written six months ago contradicts the NATO/Trump Advisors/Ukrainian information provided to the American and European or Ukrainian public.

This article is now everywhere, and it is alarmingly damaging to the Western Narrative. Russia knows exactly what they are doing, the amount of bombs, the amount of time Ukraine can hold, and when they would advance on a time table. It is no coincidence that everyone of these final logistic hubs west of the D’niper are falling together all at once.

It is solid Gold Proof that Russia is controlling the pace of the war, controlling with clarity the destruction of Ukrainian forces.

Russia told the west it was not about advancing fast, but destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU).

The Russian Amry General Staff based on information SIX MONTHS AGO decided how long Ukraine would last in each city and each string of defensive lines would remain in Ukrainian hands, they told us the methods and the manuever.

This article is not simply a guess but it was a Genesis Plan by Russia which not only got the battlefield tempo prescisely correct, but they got exactly the reacations of the west and Ukraine to act in the pre-determined manner by Russian pressure.

They knew how to exhaust NATO resources sent to Ukraine and when the lines would crumble. Russia pre-determined the pain Ukraine could withstand before they started to take the half dozen fortified cities. Six months later I wove it into my predictions based on their future predictions.

All I did was to bring it up to date showing that Russia had accomplished exactly what their General Staff planned - and explain why Ukraine has ZERO (probability, chance, wonder weapons) to either stop Russia, to Win, or to avoid unconditional surrender. The Russians absolutely knew how long and how far they would travel. They have never put their foot on the gas, they have patiently bombed the hell out the AFU with percision, on time and on task. Russia six months ago set out to show the world a text book military operation - which has unfolded exactly as they said they would do.

You guys see “jumper” and I am a lightening rod demanding a zeeper argument to counter the information. Always certain ones attack me personally, saying the information is crazy. As a group they attack the sources of information, me, and simply counter with British Tabloid articles passed directly from Ukraine to Britian and the US.

The information from his article was so detailed.
It was future predictions.
I used his information rather than copy it in whole and updated it to current events and time.

Every Zeeper is so hot headed they get emotionally charged over everything that presents reality, which is Ukraine is losing but this article makes with great clarity the point that the Russian Army is executing on time battlefield manuevers of great complexity exactly how they said they would.

There is no bumbling Russian Army being slaughtered in meat wave attacks. There is no Russian Army priority to lie to the public. Just as the US did in WWII against the Japanese, they too do not make public announcements on the lopsided losses Ukraine is suffering because at some point there would be public outrage at the carnage Russia is inflicting on NATO’s merry band of Bandarite AZOV Zelinski followers.

The real outrage is not what I wrote or the source.

Those who support Ukraine got GobSmacked By Reality. Today the rage was directed at me for using his information, but his information was made available BECAUSE HE WROTE WHAT THE RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF SAID THEY WOULD DO SIX MONTHS AGO AND IT HAPPENED WITH PERCISION not common in war.

It is not Pro-Russian or Anti-American to point out that NATO ENLARGEMENT is at fault for the war in Ukraine. Nor does proving Ukraine has been losing or saying they will lose rise to that level. Telling the Freepers and the American people how American, Inc breaks things thru wars and fixes them with Reconstruction Banks is all about the MIC and politicans re-directing taxpayer monies for never ending wars.

My initial opposition to Ukraine was when Biden was being hammered over his 1B bribe to remove the prosecutor in Ukraine to cover his and his son’s butt... What was it Biden said on video laughing... Son of Bitch, just like that they fired him. Having retired from State when I heard Blinkin and Harris together told the Russians the US would put missiles in Ukraine and do whatever they wanted in NATO Friendly countries, I nearly threw up - it was less than a week until the SMO started. VP Harris by not saying anything and SecState Blinken threatening the Russians was the final straw. The US wanted this war and we did everything in preparation for it. The gambit of Project Ukraine was to get Putin out or better break up Russia for the resourcess. The US got it’s war. Biden escalated and crossed his every red line on weapons that would not be sent; of course he did this becase Ukraine is winning. Biden launched missiles into Crimea and killed beachgoers on a holiday. Trump opposed this in Oct 23 in the runup to the election - Trump said he would not allow missiles or strikes on Russian Nuclear Triad facilities such as deep strike warning radars. We voted for Trump to bring justice to the Democrats and Deep State - which he may yet achieve, but Trump has morphed into an American Presidential nightmare - he acknowledged we but one of three Great Powers, with our own sphere of influence, e.g, from Iceland to Artic to Panama and S.America; yet he never mentions the sphere’s of influence both Russia and China naturally have in close proximity... Trump has escalated the conflict. Trump has created conflicts between Cambodia and Thailand over Brics, Pakistan and India over Brics, greenlit the destruction of Syria, attacked both Iran and Venezula and he will continue to go to war against both Iran and Venezula - he is not the peace president he makes claim. And when did the Nobel Peace Prize matter to conservatives - it is a socialist participation award. No one trusts the United States as evidenced by the flight from pre-2022 trade to Brics. Trump is telling every nation who and what they can buy and putting sanctions and tariffs to confront Russia and China, and too Brics. When you have economic conflicts they are usually the pre-hot war phase of relations between countries. Trump is leading the United States into a series of wars - he did not campaign on never ending wars but because he has essentially lied to be elected he is more dangerous than a democrat who firmly wanted these wars. There are no leaders in history more dangerous than those who were elected to bring peace but then turned to many wars. Zelinski is such a creature. The last 300 years are full of guys like Trump. We are in dangerous times.

So if you don’t agree or don’t like what I write so be it - but remember seeing the possibilities and comparing them to history shows that Trump’s America is against the world. We are self-isolating via trade, only later to find Trump firing shots in other countries because his demands were unreasonable to the countries his is dictating. On a final note, SecState Rubio had better get his act in order and quit acting like a senator in session, and start acting like a diplomat using the correct nuances and language because what his saying cannot not be misconstrued as both undiplomatic and unprofessional. Trump needs to let Rubio do his gig, and Trumps needs to use the cover of Rubio at State to not look like an idiot on the world stage.

Propaganda? Reporting?
When you are ready to provide a URL or more, we can source material to see from which “side” it comes.

I LOVE IT ABOVE. This is the crux of the problem here. The solution is to seek out the other sides propoganda, our propogandia, any neutral sources, and make our own estimates of where the truth LIES.

He wrote a piece six months telling us the future, hence it is now being floated as such.

I took and updated it. You see what he talked about had yet to happen.

Imagine someone writing literally on behalf of the Russian Army’s general staff about the timeline and tactics six months out and come October 2025, the Russians are on time and on schedule.

As I have told many here that Russia is not so concerned with taking land as they are with the destruction of the AFU.

Six Months Ago... an article said what Russia needed to do.

I took that prediction and updated it to the current situation.

Are you more offended that the Russians know precisely to fractional data point when and where and how they would advance. I mean this dude nailed it to a T. He wrote what he was told and as Biden liked to say, SOB, they did it.

This article is being floated at this current time precisely because it was predictive, and it PROVES what many say here about land and casualities in contrast to the Zeeper narrative that the Orcs are stupid meat-grinder fodder. Instead the Russian leadership knew how Ukraine would react and planned accordingly. They know the power of their FABS on frontline bunkers and fortified cities. They knew. It is really something that they planned all this out.

You see I didn’t really steal anything because when it was written even Chasa Yar had yet to fall; Now all of it has happened or is in motion. The Ukrainians reacted as predicted.

And I explained the challenges the west and Ukraine suffer, not confront but suffer from. There is no turning this around for Ukraine. Most of my article builds on his information, and brings it current.

This proves the point that Ukraine has lost. But like their forefathers in the 3d Reich they will go on fighting into the steets of Kiev and Lviv and further to the West’s borders.

NATO ENLARGEMENT caused this war. Thus the US created the conditons and supplied the money, planning and equipment. We gambled with the lives of a people in a nation not in our sphere of influence, and lost their lives and country.

Keep telling yourself you are mad at me but deep down you grasp the reality that we treated Russia as bumbling Orcs and they kicked our western A$$e$ all the way to the bank. The US underestimated Russia and worse had no respect. They reacted to NATO ENLARGEMENT and Provocations, surviving and thriving... and broke containment to join with China, Turkey and others in defensive alliances to countrer US aggression against each of them individually.

Russia planned the past six months and executed as planned on time, without going over budget, and as they said they needed to do, they did.

Be mad at me that I know we started this unnecessary war for profit only, and that delusions of patroitism are not an issue here - it is unAmerican to support Biden’s war as Trump calls it... maybe though it is patrotic to support Biden 2.0s war in Ukraine right?

To recap. Six Months ago a guy predicted what, how and when this war would unfold.... Today I updated and took the conflict out another six months in conclusion. The Orcs knew just what the hell they were doing all this time.

No SIX MONTHS AGO a guy predicted all of this before it ever happened....

I took a prediction that turned out to be correct and updated it and made a further prediction of the final outcome of the conflict, and gave numerous reasons as to why.

But do not lose sight of the fact, the fact that, this Russian took information from his army’s general staff and wrote six months ago the how, the way, the win (when) on a timeline and map and the Orcs executed a highly complex series of tactica manuevers as they said they needed to do.

If you didn’t understand before Ukraine has lost this conflict, then knowing six months ago the Russians dictated every advance and in the order it was to happen, not by chance. The Russians did this with a clarity and planning.

If they knew six months ago and even Chasa Yar had yet to fall in his piece - in my piece six months later I recount the success of his predictions. Because he told with percise methods, manuevers, the timeline and when advances were to happen, if you read the thrust of my writing not only did it NOW HAPPEN, but the Russians knew in advance even the psychology of the American commanders and Ukrainians on the battlefield how they would react.

It is almost as if this guy traveled in a time portal and came back six months ago and said this is what needs to happen. Every encirclement and the direction, pace and final advance was predicted.

Now I predicted based on his predictions why you have been lied to about Ukraine from the beginning.

It seems the Orcs outsmarted everyone else:)

Don’t shoot the messenger. This messenger thinks that none of what he wrote which turned out to be very percise in timing and outcome was happen chance - and I believe I am correct as to the outcome for the reasons stated.

How about reading the last half and understanding that what was on substack was written six months before the current pace and success of Russia. The real point of the entire article is that Russia absolutely knew what and how and when they were going to destroy Ukrainian forces and positions six months. I spent over half of my article telling you why Russia will finish off Ukraine and why the west is unable - none of which he delved into.

RUSSIA KNEW HOW, KNEW THE ROUTES, THE TIMELINES, THE ORDER OF EVENTS ACROSS THE BATTLEFIELD, AND HOW EACH WOULD CONCLUDE. Everyone loses sight that even Kursk was still a thing and Chasa Yar had yet to fall.

The western media has been lying all along. The Orcs knew exactly what they wanted to do, but more impressively the Orcs did just what this guy wrote.

--- "So how about going to the link for the original that I posted, compare the original to what Jumper posted, and compare the text as I did."

Your reading comprehension is not in evidence. I did go to all your sources. Else how would have been able to write:

a blogger's friend in Moscow -- not Khairullin. but some guy who uses the moniker "Zinderneuf" and written last March 19th "

Even so, your complaint to Jumper faults him with some text he did not say / write. You did, or you copied it from elsewhere.

Now you go to my comment # 16 for current and mostly Ukrainian-sourced quotes of Zelensky about how some Western nations and beyond are apparently sources for Russian components in weapons. These citations are not six months old.

--- "This is the crux of the problem here. The solution is to seek out the other sides propoganda, our propogandia, any neutral sources, and make our own estimates of where the truth LIES."

This little tempest in a FR teapot comes down to sources.

In investigating anything -- say the Biden administration's number of corrupt players -- one seeks as much "testimony" one can find. If you don't like a particular source from an emotional point of view, you would NOT discount that which verifies other parallel information.

The same for both prosecutors and defense attorneys in the discovery phase of a trial.

I have cited "Pravda," very rarely, to find the word alone sparks some reaction. Problem? There is a Russia Pravda, and a Ukrainian Pravda as well, the later functioning since 2000.

I am sure that the Robinsons and their moderators would take a hand in hugely overt propaganda being posted -- because they have several times in these last years.

As to the news of the war between non-NATO Ukraine and non-NATO Russia, it is being reported as it is being reported, when it is being reported. Only this week, Zelensky complained that we and other nations are providing components for Russian weaponry. Is that news? Or propaganda? The answer in the moment is "it depends."

In the same way, another FR thread with lots of emotional heat from some was about the future dissolution of the Russia of today, akin to the dissolution of the USSR. That thread was ALL about speculation, not reality in the moment.

Ditto with this thread, when my posting of Graham, Warren, Blumnethal and Zelensky moved one Freeper to ask -- from a factual photograph -- "Pretty pathetic attempt to divert away from clear proof that Russian propagandists are accessing this site. Why are you defending them?"

Note the disconnect.

How will the war end? I have no idea, excepting that my nation is going deeper in debt, and I would like to see that stop. It will stop, by Herb Stein's adage. And some will be unhappy with the outcome. One part of the larger outcome will be whatever happens in the land war in Eastern Europe.

As a view to that, one of my contracts in Germany so long ago had me working with a German who, in conversation, did not say Germany lost WWII, but that Germany was "conquered." [ "erobert" ] I engaged no further in that conversation.

Freepers have differing views, as conservatives are not like the American liberals demanding look-step adherence to a view.

You’re a plagiarist who got caught. No amount of text wallpaper is going to change that.

So you’re defending a caught plagiarist now. Nice. But not unexpected.