Everytime Trump explains the US is not funding the war and is in fact making money selling weapons to NATO, there are posts on FR insisting that isn't true. GROK AI confirms that money spent now is from Biden era Congressional Appropriations and no new Appropriations are in the works. Of course, President Trump has been telling the truth to the American people and world leaders.
NATO and the MSM choose to spin the news as if Trump is party to their proxy war against Russia just as Biden's regime once was an active participant and largest funder (tax payer funds).
NATO is broke, afraid of Russia now that Trump's administration warned that the US will not support Article V (mutual defense) in Ukraine, and has allowed its militaries to atrophy.
At this time, I believe Trump's decision to sell arms to NATO will drive them to rearm NATO nations first, and give Ukraine old equipment, which is what they have largely been doing throughout the war.
Now NATO is on the hook for all Ukrainian military spending. Zelensky told the G7 leaders he needed $40 billion annually in budgetary support (gov officials' salaries, pensions emergency services) from them and included the US in his statement (below).
The appeal was made publicly during a G7 special meeting in Kananaskis, Canada, on June 17, 2025, amid ongoing discussions about Ukraine's economic resilience in the war against Russia.
Key Details from Zelensky's Statement
- Exact Quote: "It’s crucial to have $40 billion annually in budgetary support for Ukraine – to ensure our resilience and the ability of our country to carry on. This should be a joint decision by G7 leaders, including the U.S."
President Trump has said that there are entire cities in Ukraine without a single standing building, and that this was a 110 year reconstruction effort. NATO is on the hook for reconstruction. That's why NATO is trying to start a war in Ukraine - they still need the US back in the arena to pay for this and to fight their war for them.
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Europe will be deciding on tapping into hundreds of billions of dollars in frozen Russian assets in the coming days to fund the war on their end.
When are we ever going to find out how much money actually went to Ukraine? Manchin nixed Biden’s funding, so he was skimming most of that money for his domestic budget. When are we going to stop giving all this money to russia?
mucusmaxillary is deeply saddened.
Great news!
Um, except we’ve got NATO making major investments, with the US a major funder of NATO.
A "big deal" for Ukraine: On July 14, 2025, Trump and Rutte announced an agreement in which NATO allies would purchase U.S. military equipment, such as Patriot missiles, and supply it to Ukraine.
I think your point is a good one.
There are of course ongoing US operations in support of Ukraine apart from the supply of weapons. Examples: the US fusion center in Weisbaden from which the US military helps Ukraine run the war, the manned and unmanned intelligence flights that provide Ukraine (thru Wiesbaden presumably) the information it needs about targeting and Russian movements; the 150 (?) US military advisors in Ukraine assigned to the State Dept.... Now, how these activities (and perhaps more which are non-public) are being paid for (allocations from existing budgetary items or old money or whatever), IDK. Oh, and I thought we were giving them fuel also?
Regardless, these costs are likely pretty modest compared to the weapons systems, munitions and direct funding of wages and government functions. So dumping all of that on our so-called allies is a solid accomplishment
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It's past time to give those responsibilities to the EU as well.
Well, you were doing fine there until you veered off into your own opinions. Euro-NATO is far from “broke” short term (several years) - most of it’s countries’ debt to GDP ratios are much lower than the US’. Take a look at the biggest euro economy: Germany. Yes, it’s weak now, and the future isn’t bright, but plenty of cash can be drummed up for the next several years.
If you want to know who is REALLY in trouble, given the way things are evolving, go check out China’s debt to GDP. Russia has chosen its friends very badly....