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To: ransomnote
That doesn't negate the fact we're still providing intelligence and military planning to Ukraine.

It's past time to give those responsibilities to the EU as well.

23 posted on 10/01/2025 8:01:34 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled GROK AI confirms President Trump's statements that the US no longer provides funds to Ukraine. All funds spent now are from prior Congressional Appropriations - no new ones planned, Kazan wrote:
That doesn't negate the fact we're still providing intelligence and military planning to Ukraine.

It's past time to give those responsibilities to the EU as well.

 I asked grok about this and assertions that we're still providing intelligence and/or we're going to provide long range missiles are, until I find better proof, FAKE NEWS.

Biden era funding may have purchase contracts to supply satellite coordinates or intel (gov contractors) and I'm not so sure the world would be safer when Ukraine fired it's missiles without accurate technology.

I don't think President Trump wants to jerk whatever support Biden set up out from under the Ukraine too rapidly. Grok confirmed that training of soldiers was being done under Biden funding and I just saw an article saying as early as February, Pete Hegseth was signalling the US intentions to signficantly reduce training efforts (Biden era training of Ukrainian soldiers) and that the EU needs to supply the lions share of the funding (which they don't have).

Here's Grok's info on Hegseth's statements in march to the UDCG (Ukraine Defense Contact Group) and I see notes that after this speech, Hegseth began skipping those UDCG meetings to signal the US distancing itself from the Ukraine war in order to serve US needs first:GROK SAYS:

Full Transcript of Relevant Remarks

You can read the complete official transcript on the U.S. Department of Defense website here: Opening Remarks by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth at Ukraine Defense Contact Group

Key excerpts from the speech:

ransomnote: Since then, Trump has signaled he washed his hands of the Ukraine war. I can see some safety concerns if Zelensky is firing missiles inacurately. Everytime I see claims that Trump is going to supply long range missiles, I see an entirely different statement from Vance in which he diplomatically says the US is looking at a number of such requests (i.e., get in line Zelensky).

So it's likely Trump has zero intention of giving Zelensky long range missiles when Trump has said the US just sells weapons to NATO and Trump's facetious post saying he thinks Z can win back all their land - after telling Z over and over 'you don't have any cards.' Also, Trump is aware of Zelensky's attempts to False Flag the US into fighting Russia - why would Trump EVER give long range missiles to Zelensky?

NATO won't listen because it needs the US to fight it's war, and Trump isn't going to try to convince them anymore. They just won't get what they want and the US will turn its attention to our own concerns. Now NATO is set on supplying optics that Trump supports the war even though he attempted over and over to negotiate peace.

The NYT article linked below cites 'officials' and presents Deep State fabrications as news.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/us/politics/trump-ukraine.html

What worries me about this echo chamber of fake news among NATO and Ukraine, MSM etc. is they are doing this for a reason. They want to claim Trump is morally obligated to send troops to engage Putin when they launch their false flag. There's no other reason to do this unless they hope to deceive Putin. But Putin is listening to Trump's statements too, so I don't see how that will work.

I'll keep looking, but I have yet to find honest truth supporting MSM/NATO/Z claims.

 


24 posted on 10/01/2025 8:40:05 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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