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What Charlie Kirk got wrong about Black women [Notre Dame student]
The Observer ^ | 9/16/2025 | Zora Rodgers

Posted on 09/16/2025 8:14:19 AM PDT by simpson96

On Sept. 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck at Utah Valley University during the first stop of his “American Comeback” tour. I was in my audition seminar class when I absentmindedly checked my phone and audibly gasped as my eyes glanced over the Washington Post notification.

I followed the story into my next class, refreshing my laptop for updates and texting my friends. I was vaguely familiar with Kirk for his controversial right-wing extremist takes, and his murder came as a shock to me and many others, most likely because we tend to view public figures as untouchable.

This was a story I followed for days. I analyzed my classmates’ reactions to it, the media’s coverage of it, social media and politicians’ takes, etc. I wondered why his death and the handling of such (being flown on Air Force 2 and posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom) was of the highest honors despite him being a podcaster and having held no public office.

As news outlets chronicled his legacy and Kirk’s friends and family emotionally reflected on his life, I was curious to see what truly made this man so great. Some surface-level research and video compilations of his most controversial quotes quickly left me frustrated but not surprised, most specifically his comments about race.

This piece could’ve been “What Charlie Kirk got wrong about Black people,” instead of Black women. The only reason it is not is because I am loosely bound to a word count, so I will instead focus on the demographic that most directly affects me.

For about as long as America has been alive and colonized, Black women have been devalued, degraded and unfairly depreciated. It is a common saying in Black households that Black women must be “twice as good” to be awarded half as much as their white counterparts.

There are two direct quotes that I would like to pick apart. Both were said by Kirk on “The Charlie Kirk Show.”

The first is, “If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?” The second is as follows, “If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

First, let’s take a quick crash course in affirmative action. Affirmative action is when organizations make an active effort by devoting resources to better the employment and educational opportunities of marginalized groups such as ethnic minorities and women. Historically, white women have been the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action. It is not executed in the form of quotas (banned by the Supreme Court in the late 1970s), it does not discriminate against white men and it certainly does not hire unqualified individuals (which is against federal law).

Additionally, Joy Reid went to Harvard for her undergraduate degree. Michelle Obama went to Princeton and Harvard Law School. Sheila Jackson Lee went to NYU, transferred to Yale, and later attended UVA Law School. Ketanji Brown Jackson attended Harvard University for her undergraduate degree and Harvard Law School. Charlie Kirk attended Harper College for one semester before dropping out. Why was he challenging the intellectual competency of these Black women when they have run educational laps around him?

Kirk saying that these highly educated women do not possess the “brain processing power” to be taken seriously is problematic primarily because it is reminiscent of 19th-century pseudoscientific rhetoric that white people would use to justify the abuse of Black people and their low social status. They alleged that Black people had thicker skin and could thus tolerate more pain, less lung capacity and smaller skulls — attributed to the pseudoscience of phrenology, which asserts that cranium size and shape is indicative of mental ability.

Finally, Kirk’s assertion that these women are “stealing a white person’s slot” is troublesome because it implies that only white people are entitled to prestigious roles like “first lady” or “talk show host” or “Supreme Court justice”. This is white supremacist ideology that should be condemned on all fronts. The idea that white people are the only ones deserving of positions of power is incredibly racist and false, given that they are not the only competent ethnic group and those “slots” in question are fair game for anybody.

Kirk’s harmful rhetoric toward Black women is something that I felt compelled to address given that his words are not only insulting to me, but to my Black female friends, family, classmates and colleagues as well. His racist remarks are inevitably a part of his legacy, and should be consequently painted into the picture of his character.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; blackwomen; brain; brainprocessingpower; charliekirk; fakequotes; fallschurch; libmyths; misquoted; misquotes; notredame; phrenology; processingpower; rodgers; theobserver; womensbrains; zorarodgers
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To: heartwood
Charlie was one of the SMARTEST and WISEST of this world!!!

Ketanji doesn't even know what a WOMAN is!!!

41 posted on 09/16/2025 9:05:31 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: stanne

ND has already succumbed to evil. When it invited the ardent pro abortion ,Obama to give the graduation speech and conferred on him a “Doctor of Laws” honorary degree, it forfeited any claim to being a Catholic institution. since that abbomination Notre Dame’s athletic teams have not won anything of significance. they are cursed.


42 posted on 09/16/2025 9:07:13 AM PDT by allendale
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To: aquila48

Pretty sure Winsome Sears got NO AA or DEI!


43 posted on 09/16/2025 9:08:43 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: simpson96

Given that the WP retracted the article and fired the author for outright lying, maybe the author of this should get sued?


44 posted on 09/16/2025 9:09:02 AM PDT by dangus
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To: simpson96

BY THE POWER OF WHITE GIRL!!


45 posted on 09/16/2025 9:10:26 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople ( "Never thot I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones"-Johnny Rotten)
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To: simpson96

what the left INTENTIONALLY GET WRONG about Charlie Kirk... EVERYTHING


46 posted on 09/16/2025 9:11:53 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: simpson96

From the article: “ I was vaguely familiar with Kirk for his controversial right-wing extremist takes, ..”
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Huh? Since when is a belief in God and country “ controversial”? Only with atheists, diseased minds. Thank God these lefties are a minority, hopefully our Creator will be quick to put down those demonic beings.


47 posted on 09/16/2025 9:13:45 AM PDT by delta7
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To: marktwain

That’s her problem. She has no *experience* in it. She only knows the “stated goals” of Affirmative Action, same goes for DEI.

The difference is what happens in *practice*. She says “white men aren’t discriminated against”, lol. Or that nobody is “unqualified”, it’d be against the law.

It’s incredibly naive, that’s all. Getting favorable grades due to DEI & AA means you might have the piece of paper, but you didn’t earn it that same as the next person. Being able to attain a certain position, promoted through DEI, doesn’t mean nobody (white men) were discriminated against.

It’s easy to debate a dead person, they can’t counter the distortion of their position.


48 posted on 09/16/2025 9:14:51 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: delta7

Key words: she says she was “vaguely familiar” with Kirk.

Yet she writes a preachy article filled with declarations.

Yeesh.


49 posted on 09/16/2025 9:14:57 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Yep. The left has manufactured anti Charlie quotes so air heads like this gal can repeat them. She’s too lazy to dig deeper. That said. DEI has been very cruel to black women. Every where you look black women who have been promoted because of their race and gender are failing badly.


50 posted on 09/16/2025 9:15:16 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: heartwood

Charlie Kirk might have dropped out of college, but he was a well-spoken, well-educated, intelligent man.
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All the credit goes to God. He was a strong, young Christian, blessed with Wisdom and other Holy gifts.


51 posted on 09/16/2025 9:16:34 AM PDT by delta7
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To: simpson96

Too bad, honey. You will still be hated and cursed by THAT type of Black woman wherever you go. And if God forbid, someone ever slit your throat on a train car, they will sit by and do absolutely nothing about it. Pray there are better people, Black or White, than the type you keep trying to earn social-credit points from.

Better yet, open your eyes and start to wonder why your parents, despite almost certainly being leftist suck-ups, chose to spend an extra $800,000 or whatever to live in Falls Church, instead of some place cheaper and closer to their jobs, like Anacostia or Uptown. Or why you’re paying an extra $40,000 per year to go to Notre Dame instead of UDC.


52 posted on 09/16/2025 9:17:19 AM PDT by dangus
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To: allendale

“ND has already succumbed to evil.”

Amen.

If I recall correctly, when oZero spoke at ND, he made them cover/hide the crosses at the forum at which he spoke...

Just because they were at one time Catholic, and still call themselves “Catholic”, doesn’t mean they are any longer “Catholic”.


53 posted on 09/16/2025 9:17:51 AM PDT by 7.62mm ("Quis costodiet, ipsos costodes?" (Who then, shall guard the guardians?)Juvenal, Satires 6, Line 347)
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To: simpson96

A plane’s landing gear could touch the top of Zara’s head and she wouldn’t know it.


54 posted on 09/16/2025 9:17:53 AM PDT by liberalh8ter ( This tagline has taken the month off to attend the inauguration.)
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To: simpson96

I think, rather, showing the credentials of these women demonstrate precisely what he was saying....they’ve always been about AA. To show that justice jackson is smart because she has prestigious degrees, when she actively demonstrates her stupidity, is underscoring his point.

Not that I’d expect the author to get that, of course.


55 posted on 09/16/2025 9:18:02 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: chief lee runamok
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink." (author unknown)

Or, more apropos of this situation, “You can lead a horticulture, but you can’t make her think.” ~ Dorothy Parker.

56 posted on 09/16/2025 9:18:46 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: MuttTheHoople

The left can’t take criticism, but they sure can dish it out. KBJ said in a written opinion that black infants have double the rate of survival if they have a black doctor. The survival rate of black infants is more than 99 percent. What is “double” that rate? 198 percent survival rate? She meant half the mortality rate, but it makes me wonder if she is careless or of low intelligence or both.
Michelle Obama wrote her thesis on what is was like to be black at Princeton, and how the black experience has changed at Princeton over time. If I tried to write a thesis on how the experiences of a young men from New Jersey at Princeton have changed over time (relying on sending surveys to other young men from New Jersey) I’m pretty sure it would be rejected by the department of New Jersey Studies. Sheila Jackson Lee I don’t know. Joy Reid said “white people never invented anything” last month. Kamala? don’t get me started.


57 posted on 09/16/2025 9:21:59 AM PDT by brookwood (If you don't support abortion rights for trans women you are a Nazi. )
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To: simpson96

“For about as long as America has been alive and colonized, Black women have been devalued, degraded and unfairly depreciated. “

Definitely had to go to college to learn something so monumentally stupid.


58 posted on 09/16/2025 9:27:34 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. D)
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To: simpson96

Wait until Zohran has to deal with the angry black racist woman who runs the Hr department at whatever stupid job she gets.


59 posted on 09/16/2025 9:28:22 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. D)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

“If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

When reading this quote or even listening to it, it’s clear that Charlie was not saying Black women don’t have the brain processing power to be taken seriously and stole a white person’s slot. He’s saying the DEI /Affirmative Action supporters are espousing that.


60 posted on 09/16/2025 9:38:12 AM PDT by NCVA (Nnolibsforme)
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