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1 posted on 08/17/2025 7:41:42 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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“Witkoff says Trump, Putin agreed to ‘robust security guarantees’ during summit”

Note the missing word: NATO. Glad to see that is now off the table and thus Trump and Putin can move forward.


2 posted on 08/17/2025 7:44:35 AM PDT by BobL (If you're over 50 and still eat carbs, expect to become diabetic)
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3 posted on 08/17/2025 7:47:18 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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4 posted on 08/17/2025 7:49:06 AM PDT by Liz (May you be in Heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead (Irish blessing))
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So US troops would be called to die for Ukraine. Trump would be impeached for that.


7 posted on 08/17/2025 7:52:14 AM PDT by McGruff
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I think one of the big concerns is that Russia might take some portion of Ukraine now in return for peace but then come back in a few more years and take more of Ukraine for a future peace agreement. And then do it a third time. Eventually Russia would get it all by a sequence of peace agreements. That seemed to be a big concern. Well, an Article 5-like agreement would seem to give Russia some of Ukraine now, but no more in the future. That’s not bad.


8 posted on 08/17/2025 7:54:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The list of things I no longer care about is long. And it's getting longer.)
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The only threat to Ukraine is Russia and Trump will have an agreement with Putin to not do that.


17 posted on 08/17/2025 8:18:14 AM PDT by bigbob (If thou doth eff around, thou wilt findeth out)
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I view this as a very strong development for peace. I hope Trump succeeds but I don’t want American troops there right now.


23 posted on 08/17/2025 8:23:45 AM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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Europe can pay for that and deliver it. Not us.


26 posted on 08/17/2025 8:26:10 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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ANY agreement between Putin and Trump does NOT have a shelf life beyond their tenure in office.

Trump stated the fundamental truth on Friday,

that Ukraine should make a deal to end the war with Russia because "Russia is a very big power, and they're not",

That is true and always will be.

The Euroweenies are an aging population that cannot renew itself.

The Muslim horde which they have been illegally invaded by are not enlisting to be put in the meat grinder that is occurring in the Ukraine.

History is a b***th.

These regional conflicts have gone on for centuries.

But Western Europe has already been conquered in that they got little fight left.

We saved their bacon once and the graveyards are full of Americans who went to fight and die in far off lands which testify to that.

My father was one of those who crossed the pond although by the Grace of God he came back alive and whole.

He didn't risk all to only have to see future generations of Americans again step in and save those who have done so little with the opportunity given them by the sacrifice of so much American blood and treasure.

When the call to fight is led by the likes of Linda Graham and Stolen Valor Blumenthal, it is a crying shame.

Their call dishonors all those who fought and died in WWII.

Take the agreement that is on the table.

America has its own battle to fight.

We have our own territory to take back.

Trump putting troops on the streets of DC was not only necessary but symbolic.

27 posted on 08/17/2025 8:27:21 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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Kind of putting the cart in front of the horse. Need a cease fire first.


31 posted on 08/17/2025 8:29:47 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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Let’s see exactly what was agreed to!

Otherwise, no one will believe them.


43 posted on 08/17/2025 8:56:20 AM PDT by Sunsong
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Why would Trump agree to any possibility of getting us involved in hot war in Ukraine?

The answer is there is no possibility he'd agree to something that could lead to us being involved militarily in Ukraine.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/16/us-news/nato-style-security-mutual-defense-deal-on-the-table-for-ukraine-reports

Trump has not committed to sending US troops and previously ruled out NATO membership for Ukraine.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin floated Friday during talks with Trump including Chinese troops, but appeared willing to accept Turkish troops as a compromise addition to the international force, a source said. Although Turkey is a member of NATO, it also has served as a Russian mediator.

48 posted on 08/17/2025 9:06:49 AM PDT by Kazan
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“Security guarantees” like Prigozhin got from Putin during the Wagner coup and march on Moscow? ROFLMAO.


71 posted on 08/17/2025 12:15:03 PM PDT by lodi90
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