Posted on 07/28/2025 5:49:30 AM PDT by Openurmind
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is warning of an "impending fraud crisis" in which practically anybody will be able to imitate not only the voice but even the likeness of others, using the type of AI that his company is helping pioneer.
During a chat with Federal Reserve vice chair Michelle Bowman in Washington, DC, Altman argued that the banking industry must modernize to avoid having its customers fall victim to widespread fraud.
"I am very nervous about this," he told Bowman. "A thing that terrifies me is apparently there are still some financial institutions that will accept a voice print as authentication for you to move a lot of money or do something else. You say a challenge phrase and they just do it."
"AI has fully defeated most of the ways that people authenticate currently, other than passwords," he went on. "Right now, it’s a voice call; soon it’s going be a video or FaceTime that’s indistinguishable from reality."
How do we know Sam Altman isn’t being imitated now?
I take it you think your face is the mark of the beast.
Uh, no. We may get there, but this isn't it.
What I just proposed is the capability to recognize different clothes, hair combing, expressions... each time needing something a little different.
The in-court testimony would have to wait until trial, but the identification of the video custodian and authentication would happen pre-trial.
“I take it you think your face is the mark of the beast. Uh, no. We may get there, but this isn’t it.”
Yes, facial recognition will be forced on everyone as Identification. Even if it can be cloned and be false this will still be forced on everyone.
Stores are already using facial recognition to identify “problem customers” as they enter and to aid Law Enforcement. Your face is connected to your purchase and your bankcard info.
So yes, we are absolutely already there now...
That doesn't make it the Mark of the Beast from Revelation.
Even if it can be cloned and be false this will still be forced on everyone.
I just proposed how to make it difficult to clone. Do you have a problem with that?
“The in-court testimony would have to wait until trial, but the identification of the video custodian and authentication would happen pre-trial.”
Do you actually think LE and DAs even care whether they have “solid forensic evidence” or not before arresting you? Not anymore, “looks like him” is enough and they arrest you and say “let the courts figure it out”. You are guilty before you prove your innocence, they are not going to do any work to make sure you are not guilty before they arrest you. It doesn’t work that way anymore. You being innocent is the very last thing they care about because there is no longer any accountability for wrongful arrests. “False Arrest” is now a completely obsolete concept. No skin off their nose if they were wrong...
Never mind... It is way over your head.
Apparently an argument of false equivalence is not beyond you.
Noted.
following....
If the video evidence is forged, the person submitting it gets both prosecuted and sued, and that will happen pretty early on. That is likely to limit how often this actually happens. And neither cops nor the DA generally want to waste their time with bogus evidence either.
I'm not saying this to minimize the harm to the accused when it does happen. It obviously has to be illegal to do that, and I'd fully support additional laws to increase punishments for anyone who forgets video or audio to falsely implicate someone else.
What else do you suggest should be done?
“And neither cops nor the DA generally want to waste their time with bogus evidence either.”
And again... That is not true. It is all at the officer’s/investigators discretion. They make very little effort anymore to make sure evidence is “solid” or not. “Close enough, pick him up and let the court figure it out”. I have personally been falsely arrested three times “on suspicion” without evidence. One crime I was supposed to have committed when I was nowhere even close to the town where it was committed. Yet on all three I was arrested on simple “suspicion, and/or fits the description”. Judge kicked all three out when I was arraigned. But that did not prevent the arrest or the days I already spent in jail waiting arraignment.
“What else do you suggest should be done?”
Ihe use of AI should be strongly condemned in mass. Some uses need to be completely outlawed with very stiff penalties and charges against the creators of AI.
Another great Rick Beato, where he actually demonstrates how to create AI music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKxNGFjyRv0
So now everybody can make music, and write code and do anything. So now everybody can be special.
If you saw The Incredibles, you know what I’m leading to.
I definitely get it...
“So now everybody can make music, and write code and do anything. So now everybody can be special.”
Here is another perspective with that. It is also diminishing the value of human creativity and value as a human. Just like counterfeit money from the Fed devaluing the dollar. If they didn’t do it themselves with unique talents then it should be deemed counterfeit.
The thing that scared me about that Beato video, is that those lyrics are actually not bad at all. So why bother songwriting when AI can do it for you, even if you do wind up recording the music live as a real band.
Now everything that comes out from now on, will be AI-generated lyrics until proven otherwise.
To me it is cheating... It is changing the cards in your hand to what you want them to be and skirting the task of playing the cards you were dealt.
And just like in a card game cheating is all based on immorality, laziness, and greed. “Easier” or “Mo Money”.
I don’t think AI should be banned for all purposes. But I do think protection for the name/image/likeness/voice of individual people, used, modified, or faked without their consent, should be illegal.
A Passkey that’s pinned to a single Computer, which allows backup & restoration to an encrypted USB flash drive is the way.
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