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What We Now KNOW About TWA Flight 800
Jack’s Substack ^ | 8 Jul, 2025 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/09/2025 4:16:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber

A Pair of Lawsuits Promise to Expose the Truth Behind the July 1996 Disaster.

On July 17, 1996, TWA 800, a Paris-bound 747, blew up ten miles off Long Island’s south shore, killing all 230 souls on board. In the days leading up to the anniversary, I will share some fresh insights on this tragedy and the much too successful cover-up that followed.

After 25 years investigating the destruction of TWA Flight 800, I have learned to temper my enthusiasms. That said, I continue to take heart when I see signs of life. Perhaps the most promising development in the case is the progression through the courts of Krick v. Raytheon.

Ronald Krick is the father of Oliver Krick, a 25-year-old student flight engineer killed in the crash. Krick has been joined in the suit by relatives of other deceased passengers and crew. The defendants are the Raytheon Company, the Lockheed Martin Corporation, and the United States government.

The Krick suit gained momentum when it absorbed information gleaned from a FOIA suit brought by Tom Stalcup, a no-nonsense physicist who has been pursuing this case since he was a grad student in 1996. To establish his claims Stalcup was granted subpoena power and was able to depose several key witnesses from within the investigation.

Stalcup appeared in the 2001 documentary, Silenced, produced by me and my late partner James Sanders. In 2013 Stalcup and the late Kristina Borjesson, formerly of CBS News, produced the excellent documentary, TWA Flight 800. What follows are extended passages from Krick v. Raytheon.

—On July 17, 1996, a Boeing 747 headed for Paris took off from New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport at around 8:20 p.m. Within twelve minutes of takeoff, the plane exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Long Island, New York. All 230 passengers and crew members perished.

—After the incident, the federal government released a false report contending that the explosion was the result of an electrical fire in the airplane’s center fuel tank.

—Only recently, thanks to the work of physicist, Dr. Thomas Stalcup, through his Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”) litigation in Massachusetts federal court, has evidence emerged proving that TWA 800’s explosion was not caused by any defect in the airplane, but instead by an errant United States missile fired at aerial target drones flying nearby.

—The evidence unearthed by Dr. Stalcup establishes that the United States, including its agencies, such as the United States Missile Defense Agency (formerly known as the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization), the United States Department of Defense, and the United States Navy (the “Government Defendants”), acting in concert and working side-by-side with Raytheon Company and Lockheed Martin Corporation (the “Contractor Defendants”) and DOES 1 through 20, inclusive (collectively the “Defendants”) were testing the Aegis Weapons System and firing SM-2 missiles with live warheads from warship(s) at aerial missile targets off the coast of New York in close proximity to commercial airline flight paths. One such missile struck TWA flight 800, causing it to break apart and crash into the Atlantic Ocean, killing everyone aboard.

—Newly discovered evidence also shows that these Defendants engaged in a top-down cover-up to prevent the public from learning the truth about TWA 800. Proof of this cover-up, and of Defendants’ underlying culpability for the crash, was only recently unearthed by Dr. Stalcup after more than a decade of FOIA litigation against the Government Defendants.....SNIP


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: 230murdered; aboutdamnedtime; airlinecrashes; bigfoot; billclinton; billclintonsfault; drstalcup; finally; flatearthers; iran; knownothings; missile; stalcup; substackingthebucks; tinfoilalert; tomstalcup; truffers; twa800; ufo
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To: Vaduz
You did read the NTSB report I sent RIGHT?.

If I wanted to hear lies, I would just listen to the Democrats.

Do piss around get real.

You are either incredibly naive, or an active participant in the coverup.

The NTSB report is lying. You can see the proof of this on Youtube where a man shows just how hard it is to light jet fuel.

161 posted on 07/09/2025 8:13:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
So it wasn't a MANPADS. Who said it was? People want to claim it was because that's what they are familiar with, but the Iranian military have access to surface to air missiles with much greater range and altitude than a MANPADS.

Which also require a much larger boat and a separate fire control system than the 'fast boat' some say they saw that night could accommodate.

There were no Iranian frigates operating in those waters that night. There were no Iranian container ships, either.

162 posted on 07/09/2025 8:14:09 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The NTSB report is lying.

Your a stooge for beleving that everyone is wrong except you now go look for your UFO’s again.


163 posted on 07/09/2025 8:16:31 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz
Read the report you received from NTSB unless you don’t trust you oen eyes.

I read it years ago when you tried to present it as "proof". I took it apart them, because I'm not some stupid dumbass that doesn't understand Joules of energy and ignition temperatures as well as available energy capacity on fused circuits.

*I* understand the jargon they use, unlike most Americans who just say "Well the *EXPERTS* say so, so it must be so."

The report shows itself to be a lie, because the temperatures and energy required by the report can never be obtained from the claimed sources.

Think for yourself and stop parroting what government lying *experts* are trying to make you believe.

164 posted on 07/09/2025 8:16:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Openurmind
It has to be atomized and then compressed until with kinetic energy it reaches a temperature that makes it finally ignite.

Yep. Typical turbofan compression ratio is 40:1, about four times higher than an auto gas engine and about twice that of a diesel engine. That's why a fairly inert fuel can be used.

165 posted on 07/09/2025 8:18:22 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: Vaduz
Try arc a wire over a can of fuel and let me know what happened after your out of the hospital.

I don't have to do that. There is a youtube video where a guy has already done that, and you know what? Jet Fuel doesn't catch on fire easily.

It is d@mned hard to catch it on fire.

But judging by your behavior, if I did shoot electrical arcs into Jet fuel, and videoed it, then showed you the video, you would still deny the truth of it in favor of what the government propaganda is.

166 posted on 07/09/2025 8:18:57 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: piasa
1996 ...the year the Clinton admin was stonewalling the Khobar Towers bombing investigation because Iran’s IRGC was involved. (And. that’s the time Eritrean-born Alamoudi and his 16 organizations were funneling lots of money to the Clintons and to certain Republicans ) Also... the newsies were still burying the earlier Iran-backed 1992 and 1994 Hezbollah attacks in Argentina. And, as it happens, 1996 was the year of a defection: 1996 : (Iranian Intel agent Abolghasem Mesbahi defects) former Iranian intelligence agent known by his alias, Abolghasem Mesbahi, who defected in 1996

Very interesting details of which I didn't previously know.

167 posted on 07/09/2025 8:20:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ladyjane

See my post 146.


168 posted on 07/09/2025 8:20:15 AM PDT by Grammy (Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire. She did everything he did....in high heels and backwards.)
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To: MtnClimber

The government’s claim ended up being that fuel leaked from the aircraft, maintained a contiguous form in the force of hundreds of miles per hour wind, and ignited in such a way as to make people THINK they saw it ignite from the bottom (distant end) up.

One of the key lies that were exposed was that they had government experts immediately rule out Islamic terror on the completely silly notion that you could never launch a missle capable of blowing up a jetliner from the sort of boat that would fail to attract any attention.

The big proponent of the government did it accidentally was Kennedy’s literally insane former Sec of State.

The plausibility gap between the two would be that if the government did it, they’d have to seal up potential leaks from US servicemen who would’ve known about it, many of whom would believe it was their patriotic duty to prevent Clinton’s cover-up. OTOH, if Islamic terrorists blew it up, the Clinton administration would be loathe to have more impetus to go to war against the perpetrators.

Compare, for example, the JFK assassination. For decades, folks like Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson have promoted officially unofficial claims that the “Zapruder” film showed Oswald firing too quickly and a shot came from the wrong angle and a bullet must’ve been “magical” to cause as many wounds as it did. In reality, the film was doctored to switch two frames; they irrationally counted the 3rd, 4th and 5th sonic blurs as being the gunshots, while of course the 1st, 3rd and 5th were and the 2nd, 4th and 6th were the echoes, and if the magic bullet is associated with the correct sonic blur, its angle makes the path of the bullet exactly what you’d expect?

The relevance? LBJ was desperate to exonerate communists, and likewise, Clinton was desperate to exonerate Islamists.


169 posted on 07/09/2025 8:21:38 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Vaduz
Your a stooge for beleving that everyone is wrong except you now go look for your UFO’s again.

I am a sane rational American who does not believe things the government tells me when there is absolute proof that what they are saying is wrong.

Go watch the Youtube video of the guy trying to set Jet Fuel on fire.

As a matter of fact, I think there is more than one such video, and by different people.

170 posted on 07/09/2025 8:22:02 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: maddog55

The flight was at 10,000 feet which is the range, I have been told, of that type of missile. Have you any information on that?


171 posted on 07/09/2025 8:22:18 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Don't believe a word of this until they release a name of the ship that could have shot the missile(s).

It would be simple to ascertain. In 1996, the United States Navy had 27 Ticonderoga class (CG-47) cruisers in commission. How many were stationed on the East Coast and underway that day and which ones were within range of Long Island.

Subpoena the deck logs of those vessels from the USN and any firing of missiles will be documented there. The Deck Logs of a US Naval Vessel are a legal record and the Navy has every single one.

If they say they don't have them it's a lie and a red flag.

If they refuse to provide the deck logs of a ship underway in US waters in peacetime it's a red flag.

However in the absence of even the name of ship that could have possibly shot the missiles I'm calling B.S. on this.

Two other considerations.

1.) I've shot missiles (and torpedos) several times at the Pacific Missile Range Facility. And 5 inch guns at Kaho‘olawe. The are not casually let loose. The preparations are extensive and involve many different individuals and organizations. There would be multiple records of same in existence, including Coast Guard Notices to Mariners and (prior to 2000) Notices to Airmen

2.) The crew of a Tico class cruiser is 300+, they would surely be totally aware of any ordnance expended on that date and someone would have talked by now.

A theory like this only has legs because of the total lack of public knowledge regarding the details of use of weapons by the USN. Individuals with experience of doing so scoff at the notion that a Navy ship shot down TWA800.

172 posted on 07/09/2025 8:24:46 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: Gnome1949

I doubt that the White House Situation room would be monitoring a missile test.


173 posted on 07/09/2025 8:24:51 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: GingisK
There is nobody on deck when they are launching missiles. The only ones who know what is going on work in the fire control center. The number of sailors who would actually anything would be limited to a few men with elevated security clearances.

This is simply not true. I served as Weapons Officer (on none other than USS Normandy a few years before TWA 800) and have been involved in missile tests and exercises on many occasions during my time in the Navy. I can assure you that any time a missile is fired EVERY sailor on the ship knows it. It is not a secret. The sound alone is immense, and can be heard throughout the ship. And, having served with thousands of sailors throughout my career, there is no way someone wouldn't have spilled the beans. Submarines might be the "silent service", but the surface Navy is another thing altogether. As someone who is a subject matter expert in Navy SM-2 missile command and control -- from that particular era-- I can assure you there are numerous reasons why the Navy missile theory holds no water.

The Iranian terrorist attack/MANPAD theory is most likely IMHO.

174 posted on 07/09/2025 8:25:52 AM PDT by JHL (Ezekiel 18:31-32)
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To: Justa

Doubtful. The missile would not have the range from Maryland to get up to NYC and reach a plane that would be at 10,000 feet and heading north east.


175 posted on 07/09/2025 8:27:47 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Which also require a much larger boat and a separate fire control system than the 'fast boat' some say they saw that night could accommodate.

Speculation. We don't know that a "fast boat" was used. Supposing it was. Perhaps it had towed a sacrificial launch boat behind it?

Perhaps it was a small fishing boat?

All I know is that if you paid me enough money to do this, and I had no compunction about doing something like this, I would figure out a way to do it.

What I have been told is that a Wealthy Iranian family hired former Republican Guard soldiers who had become mercenaries to shoot down an American aircraft to avenge the deaths of some of their family members who were killed when Iran Air flight 655 was shot down by the USS Vincennes.

There were more details given to me, but this was around 2009, so those details have faded over time.

176 posted on 07/09/2025 8:28:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Openurmind; DugwayDuke

Yes, with certain levels of security clearances there comes a lifelong requirement to not talk about what was done/worked on.

Been there, done that.

This would explain why nobody on board that ship talked.

Now, if it were an Iranian small vessel shooting an anti aircraft munition, and the boat was sunk by the Navy, there’d be fewer people to tell not to talk .


177 posted on 07/09/2025 8:32:10 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: MtnClimber

bkmk
good article


178 posted on 07/09/2025 8:36:40 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: BradyLS
Nobody at the time believed the center fuel tank problem after decades of 747 service on hundreds of aircraft.

The proof that it really was a center fuel tank exploding is the grounding of the entire 747 fleet world wide for inspections of the offending pump and replacement or repair as indicated on each and every 747 in service.

Q.E.D.

So THERE!

179 posted on 07/09/2025 8:38:13 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats: fake news, fake presidents, fake beliefs, fake policies, fake protesters & fake voters!)
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To: Blueflag

Agree that Clinton is a dirt bag. Supposedly, I read the center tank was not filled, but had some residual Jet A. Isn’t that refined kerosene? Anyway, the 747 could easily reach Paris with the center tank being empty. And have reserves. A lot of unanswered questions.


180 posted on 07/09/2025 8:38:22 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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